what are they

 

im going to go with the LPP setup.. LTs and ORY.. ive heard nothing but good things about their headers...look them up in here they have threads about them...they are amazing headers for the price...pretty cheap too

 

kk thanks man!

 

I dunno how much you're looking to spend, the LPP setup is pretty top notch for the price for sure, but if you're not looking to spend quite that much, the Pacesetter ones work out pretty well too. Mine fit perfectly (took me longer to take the manifolds out than to put these in) and their y pipe fit like a glove also.

 

about much power am i likely to see with pacesetter? the LPP said 30+ for them

 

the pacesetter is a good header but the numbers and the life of them arent near as long and good as the LPP....and the LPP arent that much more than the pacesetter

 

Kooks if you have the money.

 

and not trying to hijack my own thread but should i just buy a ported intake manifold and get what knid of tb?

 

headers are more of a power adder than the intake way...and cheaper...kooks are good headers but it is proven that the LPPs are just as good as the kooks...read about it...and if you go the tb way then run bbk or TPIS....TPIS has a websight...www.tpis.com

 

LPPs and Pacesetters are about the same price...

 

lpp is about 150 more...and the quality is 3 times better..

 

LPPs are the best header for the money. I would have to say they are even better than the KOOKS. The design is almost Identical and the LPPs are made off better stainless than any header on the market.

The PS Lts seem like a waste of cash while these are still around as long as you can come up with a couple extra bucks.
LPPs are only $150 more than the PS LTs,but they are $650 less expensive than the KOOKS

Not trying to say PS Lts are bad, because they are a nice set of cheap headers. Just saying for the money, It would be stupid not to get the LPPs,
Also the LPPs are stepped headers and the PS are not.

 

^ I would agree other than the fact I don't like the way the 02 bung is welded on the opposite side, compared to all other headers. For the money I would buy them, but I just put Pacesetters on last year.

 

i am about to buy pacesetter right now....summint racing 334.00. worth it?

 

I would rather go with some Hooker/Jet-Hot coated headers.

 

depends on the expense and if you like losing ground clearence. the mac mids i put on my car are awesome. they went in in under 2 hours with the hardest part being me trying to get the bolt holes to line up for my gaskets. if i ever did extensive engine work i might go with kooks stainless long tubes. but that might be a very long while.

 

I have those on mine, they work well, but they do tend to rust rather quickly.
I'm very dissatisfied with how the coating has held up past the collectors over the last 2 years.
I just took them off today in preparation for my motor swap, I'm not sure if
I will put them back on or upgrade to a set of Kooks.

 

2nd that.

Kooks
Hookers
Pacesetters--- Tho I love my pacesetter through the Borla.
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man screw kooks....proven that LPP is better..READ about it..lol..you all argue this matter and its a point that has been proven LPP is the best header around for the money...if your going to put 350 down on a set of pacesetters why not wait and get a couple more bucks and buy a better set that will last you twice as long and give you more power...makes sense to me but i guess you will do what you want

 

Yeah... I dont know why peple would even buy the Kooks, unless you want the emissons crap on them. I have read multiple times the kooks stepped headers have the same clearance problems as the LPPs. The LPPs are a better stainless and its half the price..I dont get it???

Heres pics of both