MGW Shifter - No Limit Stops
05-01-2009, 04:09 PM
#22
LOL, so you can set the throw distance to your own personal preference you genius.
Before you start tryin to call others out with more experience on these cars than yourself you need some better arguements than you have. There are alot of guys on here running the MGW as well as the Pro 5.0 shifter both without issues. Show me one person who broke their tranny running a MGW.
As far as your other dumb comment about the architects, yes that sometimes is the facts. I'm am a engineer/designer & I deal with engineers from other companies on a daily basis that have no damn clue how the product they are buying actually operates in the field. All they know is that it needs to meet their data sheet specs for certain capacities. They have no clue about the nozzles required for their pressure vessels to operate properly once piping is ran to them & alot of times you have to get more than one person on the phone or arrange a meeting with them in person to get the damn point across.
You need to stop while your ahead cause your just making yourself sound even more unknowledgable about what your attempting to speak about. You wanna spread false info about a part & back it up with a BS story about directly talkin to the tranny designer about this particular shifter go do it on another board full of people dumb enough to buy your load of **** man. Those of us on here smart enough to know better will call you out.
Before you start tryin to call others out with more experience on these cars than yourself you need some better arguements than you have. There are alot of guys on here running the MGW as well as the Pro 5.0 shifter both without issues. Show me one person who broke their tranny running a MGW.
As far as your other dumb comment about the architects, yes that sometimes is the facts. I'm am a engineer/designer & I deal with engineers from other companies on a daily basis that have no damn clue how the product they are buying actually operates in the field. All they know is that it needs to meet their data sheet specs for certain capacities. They have no clue about the nozzles required for their pressure vessels to operate properly once piping is ran to them & alot of times you have to get more than one person on the phone or arrange a meeting with them in person to get the damn point across.
You need to stop while your ahead cause your just making yourself sound even more unknowledgable about what your attempting to speak about. You wanna spread false info about a part & back it up with a BS story about directly talkin to the tranny designer about this particular shifter go do it on another board full of people dumb enough to buy your load of **** man. Those of us on here smart enough to know better will call you out.
05-01-2009, 04:09 PM
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The stops on the 5.0 plain out suck. They back out and you need to retighten them every 4-5k miles or they are useless.
I havent heard anything about the Hurst Billet but Im glad ya bought it.
Im sorry but if a designer said to use a shifter with stops then go for it. It wont save the shift forks (IIRC they are made out of aluminum) that are in a STOCK transmission if you are powershifting the car.
I havent heard anything about the Hurst Billet but Im glad ya bought it.
Im sorry but if a designer said to use a shifter with stops then go for it. It wont save the shift forks (IIRC they are made out of aluminum) that are in a STOCK transmission if you are powershifting the car.
05-01-2009, 04:37 PM
#24
http://www.mgwltd.com/mustang_shifter.shtml
Directly from MGW's website:
Feature List:
Each shifter boasts the shortest throw in it's class.
Absolutely the quietest aftermarket shifter you can buy.
360° adjustability of the shift **** position means no more reaching for gears.
Centering springs are the strongest in their class. (No more missing 3rd gear)
Reduces "In Gear" slop, vibration and buzzing.
Fully Adjustable shifter stops to prevent broken or bent shift forks.
No modification of factory inner boot necessary.
Accepts Factory or aftermarket shift ***** with 12mm threads.
Class III Teflon Impregnated Hard Coat Anodized to prevent galling and grease contamination.
Directly from MGW's website:
Feature List:
Each shifter boasts the shortest throw in it's class.
Absolutely the quietest aftermarket shifter you can buy.
360° adjustability of the shift **** position means no more reaching for gears.
Centering springs are the strongest in their class. (No more missing 3rd gear)
Reduces "In Gear" slop, vibration and buzzing.
Fully Adjustable shifter stops to prevent broken or bent shift forks.
No modification of factory inner boot necessary.
Accepts Factory or aftermarket shift ***** with 12mm threads.
Class III Teflon Impregnated Hard Coat Anodized to prevent galling and grease contamination.
05-01-2009, 04:47 PM
#28
Well their ad might say that but I have yet to see anyone I know that races their car on a stock tranny or in general just beats the **** outta it ever break a tranny from an aftermarket shifter either with or without stops. The reason I have seen failures is from worn forks in general, not from the shifter used.
Take a long look at the bottom of a stock shifter & the one you bought. Watch how much the bottom pivot actually moves. I'd be willing to bet it's damn near identical. And thats the piece that sticks into the transmission & actually does the movement to shift gears. Most your short throw shifters make the throw shorter than stock in their design above the plate where it bolts to the tranny, not under it.
Hell I still run my stocker with a WS6store short stick & have had several other experienced f-body owners ask what short throw I had in there b/c it feels so much shorter & all that changed was the stick length.
Take a long look at the bottom of a stock shifter & the one you bought. Watch how much the bottom pivot actually moves. I'd be willing to bet it's damn near identical. And thats the piece that sticks into the transmission & actually does the movement to shift gears. Most your short throw shifters make the throw shorter than stock in their design above the plate where it bolts to the tranny, not under it.
Hell I still run my stocker with a WS6store short stick & have had several other experienced f-body owners ask what short throw I had in there b/c it feels so much shorter & all that changed was the stick length.
05-01-2009, 04:49 PM
#29
You on the other hand are relyin on everyone believing you actually called the designer of these transimissions & asked about a specific shifter & he actually knew what you were talkin about. Pretty weak if you ask me.
05-01-2009, 04:52 PM
#30
The stops on the 5.0 plain out suck. They back out and you need to retighten them every 4-5k miles or they are useless.
I havent heard anything about the Hurst Billet but Im glad ya bought it.
Im sorry but if a designer said to use a shifter with stops then go for it. It wont save the shift forks (IIRC they are made out of aluminum) that are in a STOCK transmission if you are powershifting the car.
I havent heard anything about the Hurst Billet but Im glad ya bought it.
Im sorry but if a designer said to use a shifter with stops then go for it. It wont save the shift forks (IIRC they are made out of aluminum) that are in a STOCK transmission if you are powershifting the car.
Hurst uses a nut on the stop shaft to tighten down on... I doubt it will move.
MGW uses the same design in their T56 shifter... just not the F body shifter.
The REASON I bought the Hurst billet was for the stops to HELP AVOID a bent fork while power shifting the car...
Good luck power shifting your car with your MGW.
05-01-2009, 04:58 PM
#31
I'm sorry but I probably have more technical information about these cars in my pinky than you do in your entire being man. I have helped numerous members on here in every section from internal engine to appearance. So before you go talkin **** know who your talkin to.
You on the other hand are relyin on everyone believing you actually called the designer of these transimissions & asked about a specific shifter & he actually knew what you were talkin about. Pretty weak if you ask me.
You on the other hand are relyin on everyone believing you actually called the designer of these transimissions & asked about a specific shifter & he actually knew what you were talkin about. Pretty weak if you ask me.
I mean, what else do you have to say when I show you that MGW makes a shifter for the T56 with stops.
Backpedal much there boss?
05-01-2009, 05:00 PM
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I dont powershift my car. I dont feel the need to honestly. Yea, its cool to do, sounds good and gets you that extra .1 on the strip but I just dont punish my car with it.
Honestly, if MGW makes an Fbody shifter with the stops, Ill buy it from them. However, for my uses the MGW is perfect for me and a great shifter to me.
BTW there is this thing called multiquote. You can quote multiple people in ONE post so you dont post 6 in a row. Just hit the quotation mark button and then post reply.
Very, very, very good point.
Honestly, if MGW makes an Fbody shifter with the stops, Ill buy it from them. However, for my uses the MGW is perfect for me and a great shifter to me.
BTW there is this thing called multiquote. You can quote multiple people in ONE post so you dont post 6 in a row. Just hit the quotation mark button and then post reply.
Take a long look at the bottom of a stock shifter & the one you bought. Watch how much the bottom pivot actually moves. I'd be willing to bet it's damn near identical. And thats the piece that sticks into the transmission & actually does the movement to shift gears. Most your short throw shifters make the throw shorter than stock in their design above the plate where it bolts to the tranny, not under it.
05-02-2009, 11:06 AM
#34
Dude if your so ****** smart you dont need this forum. You seem like one of those idiots that refuses to listen to people more educated than yourself. You can say you spoke with the tranny engineer all you want. I could give 2 ***** less. But this entire thread is pointless b/c there are already plenty of people running this shifter & none have had tranny failure due to the shifter.
What part of "the shift forks are built from inferior materials" are you not understanding. You power shift your car hard enough for long enough on ANY shifter & eventually your gonna trash a ****** shift fork unless you have already upgraded. It's a pretty ****** easy concept but your having a damn hard time accepting it.
Stop doggin a perfectly good shifter cause it doesn't have a feature that gets you off. Stick to your Hurst you bought & STFU.
What part of "the shift forks are built from inferior materials" are you not understanding. You power shift your car hard enough for long enough on ANY shifter & eventually your gonna trash a ****** shift fork unless you have already upgraded. It's a pretty ****** easy concept but your having a damn hard time accepting it.
Stop doggin a perfectly good shifter cause it doesn't have a feature that gets you off. Stick to your Hurst you bought & STFU.
05-04-2009, 07:55 PM
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I just checked out the MGW site for this shifter, but they only list shifters for Vettes, Stangs and Vipers; where are the F-Body shifters?
I have a B&M Ripper and really don't like the look of it, seems too tall, so I am shopping around.
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I have a B&M Ripper and really don't like the look of it, seems too tall, so I am shopping around.
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