ls7 clutch issues
11-06-2009, 11:36 AM
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Since your wheels are spinning with the clutch in, it's still not fully disengaging.
The only thing I can think of, is that there is still some air in the system.
With my setup, There would be to much pressure if I adjusted my Tick m/c rod out all the way.
( You probably have done all that I will mention below )
It never hurts to double check and repeat, being that the hydraulic systems on our cars can be fussy at times.
One thing about the Tick m/c, it is recommended to bench bleed.
The best way to bleed these cars in general...
If you have someone to help you.
Make sure hydraulic fluid is always plentiful.
Push clutch peddle to the floor, open clutch slave bleeder valve.
Close slave bleeder valve, release peddle.
Repeat the process a few times or whatever is needed.
Pumping the peddle on these cars is not recommmended, just nice
and easy full single strokes. You don't want to create aeration bubbles.
I have the same setup as you do and mine works fantastic, I'm confused as to why you're catching hell from your LS7 clutch / Tick m/c setup.
Pilot bearing in all the way ?
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The only thing I can think of, is that there is still some air in the system.
With my setup, There would be to much pressure if I adjusted my Tick m/c rod out all the way.
( You probably have done all that I will mention below )
It never hurts to double check and repeat, being that the hydraulic systems on our cars can be fussy at times.
One thing about the Tick m/c, it is recommended to bench bleed.
The best way to bleed these cars in general...
If you have someone to help you.
Make sure hydraulic fluid is always plentiful.
Push clutch peddle to the floor, open clutch slave bleeder valve.
Close slave bleeder valve, release peddle.
Repeat the process a few times or whatever is needed.
Pumping the peddle on these cars is not recommmended, just nice
and easy full single strokes. You don't want to create aeration bubbles.
I have the same setup as you do and mine works fantastic, I'm confused as to why you're catching hell from your LS7 clutch / Tick m/c setup.
Pilot bearing in all the way ?
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11-06-2009, 07:25 PM
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I had a local transmission expert swing by today and take a look. I have GREAT NEWS!!!
He said that the peddle is way stiff and should not be that hard. Hydraulics look good no problems there. TIME TO DROP HER AGAIN!!!
He said its an internal issue.
I don't know what I could have messed up on a simple ls7 clutch swap. I am planning on giving her the drop as soon as I can to find out what the hell it could be. Might be a while though I will try and keep updates.
Anyone that would have any clue to what could be wrong internally let me know.
Thanks
He said that the peddle is way stiff and should not be that hard. Hydraulics look good no problems there. TIME TO DROP HER AGAIN!!! He said its an internal issue. I don't know what I could have messed up on a simple ls7 clutch swap. I am planning on giving her the drop as soon as I can to find out what the hell it could be. Might be a while though I will try and keep updates.
Anyone that would have any clue to what could be wrong internally let me know.
Thanks
11-06-2009, 07:57 PM
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Geeze, that kind of bites.
I can't see how it can get messed up.
I'll just throw some things out there.
Pilot bearing ?
Did everything go together smooth and easy ?
Locktite overflow on the clutch disc ?
Everything torqued to spec ?
Make sure there is no interference with the p/p bolts or flywheel bolts.
Also ... like Spec01 suggested, check the SAC pressure plate to make sure it's not stuck.
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I can't see how it can get messed up.
I'll just throw some things out there.
Pilot bearing ?
Did everything go together smooth and easy ?
Locktite overflow on the clutch disc ?
Everything torqued to spec ?
Make sure there is no interference with the p/p bolts or flywheel bolts.
Also ... like Spec01 suggested, check the SAC pressure plate to make sure it's not stuck.
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11-06-2009, 08:08 PM
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Pilot bearing I didn't replace but I have one sitting here waiting to go in now. I know that is not causing these kinds of problems
everything went together pretty smooth. had to shake the tranny a little but nothing major.
locktite didn't use it so shouldn't be there.
torqued to spec everything. little over on flywheel bolts maybe but still shouldn't be a problem with the clutch disengaging.
dont think I would have put it in if I saw interference but that doesn't mean it could have happened.
everything went together pretty smooth. had to shake the tranny a little but nothing major.
locktite didn't use it so shouldn't be there.
torqued to spec everything. little over on flywheel bolts maybe but still shouldn't be a problem with the clutch disengaging.
dont think I would have put it in if I saw interference but that doesn't mean it could have happened.
11-07-2009, 07:55 PM
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See the thing that has me going is the fact that it doesn't even try to engage. My peddle is stiffer than hell. I tightened up the flywheel in a star pattern and I had everything cleaned up. I am going to try and get it dropped on monday. Any expert in the area just bored sitting around on a monday feel free to come help out.
11-07-2009, 08:11 PM
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To bad you're not closer, I would be glad to help out.
I'm not a so called expert but I have dropped my tranny at least a half-a-dozen times so it's become easier. I also learned how to rebuild my own tranny as well.
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I'm not a so called expert but I have dropped my tranny at least a half-a-dozen times so it's become easier. I also learned how to rebuild my own tranny as well.
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11-07-2009, 09:38 PM
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Midland Tx you haven't been anywhere till you have been here. Once you have been here you will feel you have been everywhere! Sounds to me like you need a vacation. We have more beaches than you have ever seen. Go ahead buy a plane ticket down. International airports about 15minutes away. Dont plan on flying out internationally though because I dont think there are any that actually leave the states. Come on down
PS prepare to be disapointed!
Thanks for the offer though I might be moving in the next couple years and at this rate I might not have it fixed yet.
PS prepare to be disapointed!
Thanks for the offer though I might be moving in the next couple years and at this rate I might not have it fixed yet.
11-07-2009, 10:21 PM
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Hahaha
I wish I could take a vacation, I need one. It would be better if you could bring your car here, I have an air compressor and all the tools needed.
You might to, I don't know.
I haven't been to the Texas Gulf Coast before, my wife has a friend from there, she seems to like it. The pictures I've seen give me a good impression. The only thing about the Gulf of Mexico is the hurricanes I think.
Texas is obviously a BIG state that seems to be more business friendly than California. I also like the conservative politics in Texas too. Eventhough I'm a Californian, I'm more of a Texan at heart. Don't mess with Texas. lol
The main thing that bothers me about Texas is the potential high property Taxes and reassessments.
We've considered moving from our area eventually, we're just not sure where.
I personally think Southern California sucks, I've been here all my life, it's just a change that might be nice. People have told me if you think it's bad in Southern California, try other places. That makes me think, geeze the whole country can't bite that bad. lol We've considered Northern California, it's pretty nice up there, just gets alot colder than here.
So in the meantime this isn't getting your car fixed but I don't have any other ideas right now. The only other thing I can think of is maybe a defective pressure plate or disc. Or maybe a mismatched part, I just don't know.
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I wish I could take a vacation, I need one. It would be better if you could bring your car here, I have an air compressor and all the tools needed.
You might to, I don't know.
I haven't been to the Texas Gulf Coast before, my wife has a friend from there, she seems to like it. The pictures I've seen give me a good impression. The only thing about the Gulf of Mexico is the hurricanes I think.
Texas is obviously a BIG state that seems to be more business friendly than California. I also like the conservative politics in Texas too. Eventhough I'm a Californian, I'm more of a Texan at heart. Don't mess with Texas. lol
The main thing that bothers me about Texas is the potential high property Taxes and reassessments.
We've considered moving from our area eventually, we're just not sure where.
I personally think Southern California sucks, I've been here all my life, it's just a change that might be nice. People have told me if you think it's bad in Southern California, try other places. That makes me think, geeze the whole country can't bite that bad. lol We've considered Northern California, it's pretty nice up there, just gets alot colder than here.
So in the meantime this isn't getting your car fixed but I don't have any other ideas right now. The only other thing I can think of is maybe a defective pressure plate or disc. Or maybe a mismatched part, I just don't know.
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11-10-2009, 09:04 AM
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OK I took the tranny out yesterday. checked everything out. re installed everything flywheel and clutch look good. pressure plate and slave one or the other has to be the problem. I checked the slave and its working with me holding pressure against it. well I put everything back in. STILL not working. I am lost for sure. I have dropped everything back out and am just sitting here wondering WTF to do. Anyone ever run into any problems like this?
PS I am getting pretty good with dropping the tranny I am sad to say.
PS I am getting pretty good with dropping the tranny I am sad to say.
11-10-2009, 09:53 AM
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I have a LS7 (3k miles) with Tick M/C just installed and mine is doing the exact same thing, even with the Tick maxed out. I've bled til my face exploded. It's going to a shop sometime this week or next to check the SAC springs on the PP and put in a new slave (even though the one in it only has 3k miles 
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I feel your pain.
Take a picture of your pressure plate on the car showing the SAC springs, if you don't mind, so I can compare to mine.
)I feel your pain.
Take a picture of your pressure plate on the car showing the SAC springs, if you don't mind, so I can compare to mine.
11-10-2009, 10:10 AM
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Oh and Bearcatt- Midland is nowhere near the gulfcoast-lol. but we have gotten some coller weather out here cause of that storm. what are you doing today? after 1 I should be free to swing over to midland. Beaches? is that what we calling them now?
11-10-2009, 12:08 PM
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I would help but I'm about 1300 miles away.
I see why they call it midland Texas because it's almost right in the middle of Texas.
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&so...-8&sa=N&tab=wl
I have a friend that lives in Beaumont, thats much closer to the gulf cost.
He's been in a couple of nice little hurricanes.
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11-10-2009, 12:12 PM
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OK I took the tranny out yesterday. checked everything out. re installed everything flywheel and clutch look good. pressure plate and slave one or the other has to be the problem. I checked the slave and its working with me holding pressure against it. well I put everything back in. STILL not working. I am lost for sure. I have dropped everything back out and am just sitting here wondering WTF to do. Anyone ever run into any problems like this?
PS I am getting pretty good with dropping the tranny I am sad to say.
PS I am getting pretty good with dropping the tranny I am sad to say.
http://paceperformance.com/paceperfo...6ClutchAdj.pdf
11-10-2009, 12:31 PM
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OK I took the tranny out yesterday. checked everything out. re installed everything flywheel and clutch look good. pressure plate and slave one or the other has to be the problem. I checked the slave and its working with me holding pressure against it. well I put everything back in. STILL not working. I am lost for sure. I have dropped everything back out and am just sitting here wondering WTF to do. Anyone ever run into any problems like this?
PS I am getting pretty good with dropping the tranny I am sad to say.
PS I am getting pretty good with dropping the tranny I am sad to say.
where did you buy your LS7 kit from, there have been a few cases in the past where, the pressure plates were defective.
Here's for the clutch pressue plate adjustment.
http://paceperformance.com/paceperfo...6ClutchAdj.pdf
You shouldn't have to do that, they are normally adjusted as shown it the second figure.
A clutch sticky about measuring for a shim.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/manual-tr...need-shim.html
A good diagram to print out. I came up with 3/16" gap on my LS7
http://www.ramclutches.com/Tech/Tech...%20Bearing.jpg
This is from GEN414. He's in Pearland Texas. Always very helpful on this board.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/manual-tr...good-tech.html
Another member is having a problem with his new LS7 clutch.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/newreply....e=1&p=12488167
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Last edited by bearcatt; 11-10-2009 at 01:48 PM.