T-56 Magnum Vs. TR6060
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Yeah I had some issues with the six speed install on my BBC in my 04 silverado. And was trying to get some info. I bought a mcleod ls1 t56 to BBC SBC scattershield. And a mcleod twin disc with flywheel etc. The stock ls1 bellhousing is 5.5" the mcleod one is 5.750" and the quicktime one is 5.950" from where the trans mounts to the bellhousing to the back of the block. So I am trying to find out the correct depth of all the parts.
If i bolted the trans to the scattershield the engine and trans would not turn over. If I loosened the bolts the then trans with push itself out .020" and then the engine and trans would turn over. So since time was a limiting factor and it was a sunday I was fighting with this stuff. I ended up putting 8 .100" washers between the trans and the scattershield. and for the brief period of a day i was able to drive it, it seemed to drive right and had the correct clutch feel. But I want to double check it and make sure it is right. Especially after seeing the difference in measurement on the quicktime one.
If that makes any sense. But of course I flew back to korea the next day and figured I would email them to verify everything and of course they have no email listed on their website. And calling from here is a pita on top of the delay from when i speak til when they hear it and the return is the same.
On another note how much to build a ls1 t56 with all six gears face plated and all the upgrades? email because i think quoting on the forum is a NO NO
If i bolted the trans to the scattershield the engine and trans would not turn over. If I loosened the bolts the then trans with push itself out .020" and then the engine and trans would turn over. So since time was a limiting factor and it was a sunday I was fighting with this stuff. I ended up putting 8 .100" washers between the trans and the scattershield. and for the brief period of a day i was able to drive it, it seemed to drive right and had the correct clutch feel. But I want to double check it and make sure it is right. Especially after seeing the difference in measurement on the quicktime one.
If that makes any sense. But of course I flew back to korea the next day and figured I would email them to verify everything and of course they have no email listed on their website. And calling from here is a pita on top of the delay from when i speak til when they hear it and the return is the same.
On another note how much to build a ls1 t56 with all six gears face plated and all the upgrades? email because i think quoting on the forum is a NO NO
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Thanks Mike, I tried joining the forum before and the question they ask you, what is the phone number to mcleod racing. I tried entering every number on there website in different formats and it would say this is the wrong answer. So I was never able to join and ask thru the forum.
If you could see if you have any luck joining. If you want use my xx_ED_xx name since its available. IF you are able to join you can just send me the account info and i can update it.
If you could see if you have any luck joining. If you want use my xx_ED_xx name since its available. IF you are able to join you can just send me the account info and i can update it.
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Hey guys,
We can take your T56 trans and make it into a TR6060 with all the Newest 2010 Upgrades...
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Upgrades:::Synchro's & Carbon Rings
Our units have a much greater Hp/Tq capacity than any Built Level 3, 4 or 5 T56 can handle..
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Our units have a much greater Hp/Tq capacity than any Built Level 3, 4 or 5 T56 can handle..
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Seeing how expensive simple replacement internal parts are as well as how difficult to get, I sure would like to know how you pull that one off at that price unless you're simply building a 6060 and changing housings and such to accommodate the older stuff.
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^^^^ how much just for the Zr1 gears?
also you guys talk about all this stuff. but in the end. i still think the magnum will be better and last longer than t56.
new is always better than old
and yes i will say you miss a shift it will mess up your gears. but just dont miss. lol.
also you guys talk about all this stuff. but in the end. i still think the magnum will be better and last longer than t56.
new is always better than old
and yes i will say you miss a shift it will mess up your gears. but just dont miss. lol.
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Mike, you need to be more specific on what you are selling. Is this for F body or Corvette applications? What year vehicles? Do you take the old T56's as cores and buy the T56 with TR6060 guts?
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C6 Z51 Unit Ratio 2.97 2.07 1.43 1.00 .74 .50 OR .80 .63 Exchange Special Price $3495
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Upgrades:::Synchro's & Carbon Rings
Our units have a much greater Hp/Tq capacity than any Built Level 3, 4 or 5 T56 can handle..
Plus they will shift like butter...
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So you're putting the mainshafts, gears, synchros, countershafts, and all the 6060 internals in a T56 case?
Seeing how expensive simple replacement internal parts are as well as how difficult to get, I sure would like to know how you pull that one off at that price unless you're simply building a 6060 and changing housings and such to accommodate the older stuff.
Seeing how expensive simple replacement internal parts are as well as how difficult to get, I sure would like to know how you pull that one off at that price unless you're simply building a 6060 and changing housings and such to accommodate the older stuff.
^^^^ how much just for the Zr1 gears?
also you guys talk about all this stuff. but in the end. i still think the magnum will be better and last longer than t56.
new is always better than old
and yes i will say you miss a shift it will mess up your gears. but just dont miss. lol.
also you guys talk about all this stuff. but in the end. i still think the magnum will be better and last longer than t56.
new is always better than old
and yes i will say you miss a shift it will mess up your gears. but just dont miss. lol.
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sorry, but running the Zr1 gears will make the trany last longer. with the smaller gear numbers there is more teeth contact at one givin time then with anyone the other guys.
RPM rates there f-body 6060 (with f-body gears) at 1200 ish,
and there ZR1 kit, they said they have guys over 1500(it is in old t56 housings, but new gears) so the ZR1 gears in the 6060 should easly hold 1500 also.
etiher way i hope by april i got 1200 going through mine and shoow you all what they can hold.
BTW Mine was built by RPM and they did a great job. i have 2 from them. both great looking ans smoth shifting tranys
RPM rates there f-body 6060 (with f-body gears) at 1200 ish,
and there ZR1 kit, they said they have guys over 1500(it is in old t56 housings, but new gears) so the ZR1 gears in the 6060 should easly hold 1500 also.
etiher way i hope by april i got 1200 going through mine and shoow you all what they can hold.
BTW Mine was built by RPM and they did a great job. i have 2 from them. both great looking ans smoth shifting tranys
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sorry, but running the Zr1 gears will make the trany last longer. with the smaller gear numbers there is more teeth contact at one givin time then with anyone the other guys.
RPM rates there f-body 6060 (with f-body gears) at 1200 ish,
and there ZR1 kit, they said they have guys over 1500(it is in old t56 housings, but new gears) so the ZR1 gears in the 6060 should easly hold 1500 also.
etiher way i hope by april i got 1200 going through mine and shoow you all what they can hold.
BTW Mine was built by RPM and they did a great job. i have 2 from them. both great looking ans smoth shifting tranys
RPM rates there f-body 6060 (with f-body gears) at 1200 ish,
and there ZR1 kit, they said they have guys over 1500(it is in old t56 housings, but new gears) so the ZR1 gears in the 6060 should easly hold 1500 also.
etiher way i hope by april i got 1200 going through mine and shoow you all what they can hold.
BTW Mine was built by RPM and they did a great job. i have 2 from them. both great looking ans smoth shifting tranys
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So the swap for the Corvette is an TR6060 modified to be a bolt on application? Essentially it's a TR6060 with a different tailshaft housing and 27 output shaft, correct? You do know the 08 and up TR6060 is a direct bolt on for the 06-07 Z06 T56's without any modifications, right?
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I saw somewhere that the new boss302 tranny is going to be a close ratio 6speed with a 1 to 1 5th? Is this a variant of one of these trannies or something completely different?
These are the gear ratios:
2012 Boss 302
Gear ratios
1st - 3.66
2nd - 2.43
3rd - 1.69
4th - 1.32
5th - 1.00
6th - 0.65
These are the gear ratios:
2012 Boss 302
Gear ratios
1st - 3.66
2nd - 2.43
3rd - 1.69
4th - 1.32
5th - 1.00
6th - 0.65
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First gear is pretty much useless but for road racing those closer 3/4 gears would give some nice options. Don't like the idea of going to 5th but it seems like a good trade