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Old Aug 2, 2010 | 10:33 PM
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I seem to have a problem with 2nd gear. Car is a 1999 Z28 with a M6, 118k on the odometer. I sometimes have problems getting into and now lately getting out of second gear. Every other gear is perfect but I just seem to have a problem with 2nd. Car is also equipped with a B&M shifter if that helps. Any idea on what it could be? Slave cylinder was replaced at 76k. Haven't checked the clutch although i doubt that it's the problem since all other gears work fine.
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Old Aug 3, 2010 | 06:16 AM
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2nd gear synchro and/or blocker ring is going out.. Plan-on/save-for a rebuild.
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Old Aug 3, 2010 | 12:59 PM
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Agreed...since this is affecting a single gear it is more than lilkely an internal tranmission issue.
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 01:52 PM
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Do I need a complete rebuild or just a replacement of the synchro/blocker ring? How much does a good quality rebuild cost? And can any transmission shop do it or should I take it to a shop that specializes in T-56's?
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If you take it to a shop, you'll spend 4x-5x in labor over parts, so you might as well replace all the blockers while they have it open. If you plan on keeping it for a while, consider the aftermarket billet syncho keys, bronze fork pads, steel 3-4 fork at the same time..

Any manual trans shop should be able to do it, but a T56/tremec specialized shop would tend to make a better job of it..
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 02:16 PM
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Tick performance I think is the closest specialty shop. Looks to be 1k+ for a rebuild. Don't know if I'm really looking to put that kind of money in a rebuild when it's not warrantied. Even more so since I found a shop in Garner NC that will sell this T-56 (http://rpmmotorsportsnc.com/prodshow/LevelIVt56F.html) for only $800 more.

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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 02:42 PM
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tickperformance.com did my rebuild. If i remember correctly 98 and 99 6 speeds didnt have the viper style 2nd gear. you will want to get that for sure.
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 02:56 PM
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tickperformance.com did my rebuild. If i remember correctly 98 and 99 6 speeds didnt have the viper style 2nd gear. you will want to get that for sure.
one question about that second gear "viper" thing, when they say viper, they mean dodge viper tranmission or just the name they call viper ? thanks
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Originally Posted by cochran191
Tick performance I think is the closest specialty shop. Looks to be 1k+ for a rebuild. Don't know if I'm really looking to put that kind of money in a rebuild when it's not warrantied. Even more so since I found a shop in Garner NC that will sell this T-56 (http://rpmmotorsportsnc.com/prodshow/LevelIVt56F.html) for only $800 more.
I'll bet a dime to a dollar that the price doesn't include a core charge. If you look at all their Automatic transmissions, the core charge is mentioned.. So you'd be basically getting a lesser built trans for more money.. Even if there's no core, you're still getting less for the same money.. I don't see your rationale in spending $1900 when you won't spend $1100?
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Old Aug 6, 2010 | 01:27 PM
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It wasn't that I wouldn't spend 1100 just that I would rather spend a few hundred more on a brand new transmission. Having said that I emailed them and there is a $750 core charge on their manual transmissions. I won't be going with them because 1900+750 is about the same as a brand new one.
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Old Aug 24, 2010 | 12:47 PM
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one question about that second gear "viper" thing, when they say viper, they mean dodge viper tranmission or just the name they call viper ? thanks
the viper transmission is a t56. they are much more built than the ls1 trans. im guessing they take the viper 2nd gear and put in our transmission because it takes a beating.
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