Monster Level 2 Delivery!
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No really, that guy did his home work. I was thinking about the LS7 clutch. But everyone here crys about how heavy it is. I say just run a 10lb lighter flywheel @ then you are the same weight as a stock LS6. Very few guys here seem to understand thats its the weight of the whole assy that counts. Not just " I got light flywheel and its great!" I thinking that I need to move over the Vett site. Those boys seem to know whats up!
Like I said when I installed mine, I couldn't get the bellhousing off the car until I removed the PP first due to my Spohn solid mounts; It was that thick. The Monster PP was a lot skinnier than the stock garbage I pulled off, and I had no problems getting the BH back on with everything from Monster already installed.
LS6 or 7 clutch, you're still running a self-adjusting pressure plate. Pick your poison.
LS6 or 7 clutch, you're still running a self-adjusting pressure plate. Pick your poison.
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Like I said when I installed mine, I couldn't get the bellhousing off the car until I removed the PP first due to my Spohn solid mounts; It was that thick. The Monster PP was a lot skinnier than the stock garbage I pulled off, and I had no problems getting the BH back on with everything from Monster already installed.
LS6 or 7 clutch, you're still running a self-adjusting pressure plate. Pick your poison.
LS6 or 7 clutch, you're still running a self-adjusting pressure plate. Pick your poison.
see what you think?
LS7 & Alum flywheel 50 lbs (same as stock) $580.00 shipped
Monster II & light flywheel (7 1/2 lbs lighter than stock) $580.00 shipped
McLeod RXT twin (wont know the weight in till Monday) $1014.00 shipped
Twins are great, no doubt about it, but I simply can't justify the price difference when I can get a COMPLETE Premium kit with ARP bolts and a Tick master for the same price.
Honestly out if what you have listed, PENDING on your intentions for the car, I'd go Monster 2 or 3
Honestly out if what you have listed, PENDING on your intentions for the car, I'd go Monster 2 or 3
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Twins are great, no doubt about it, but I simply can't justify the price difference when I can get a COMPLETE Premium kit with ARP bolts and a Tick master for the same price.
Honestly out if what you have listed, PENDING on your intentions for the car, I'd go Monster 2 or 3
Honestly out if what you have listed, PENDING on your intentions for the car, I'd go Monster 2 or 3
I heard a handful of posts with stage 2 problems, but what sold me was Monster's customer service. They seemed to really stand behind theyre product and help out with their customers.
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Plus i saw how other brand clutches have failed much more often and those companies didnt handle the situation as snl performance.
Every clutch company has issues its just part of manufacturing, however it seems monster always stands behind their product and helps out when they can which is a-ok in my book.
With that said I would go stage 2 with a light flywheel, you will save weight over stock and have a much better unit. The ls7 will end up being very costly with a light weight flywheel and as said you will still have the shitty gm self adjust PP.
With that said I would go stage 2 with a light flywheel, you will save weight over stock and have a much better unit. The ls7 will end up being very costly with a light weight flywheel and as said you will still have the shitty gm self adjust PP.
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Every clutch company has issues its just part of manufacturing, however it seems monster always stands behind their product and helps out when they can which is a-ok in my book.
With that said I would go stage 2 with a light flywheel, you will save weight over stock and have a much better unit. The ls7 will end up being very costly with a light weight flywheel and as said you will still have the shitty gm self adjust PP.
With that said I would go stage 2 with a light flywheel, you will save weight over stock and have a much better unit. The ls7 will end up being very costly with a light weight flywheel and as said you will still have the shitty gm self adjust PP.
I said the same thing. Wait till you pull it out and look at it, LOL. I was SHOCKED my car was even driveable. It's really tough to put into words, but everything is "smoother" with the Monster unit now. release, shifting, everything. It's like butter. I love it.
You also have to consider some people who install the clutches, have not done it before. Some of the issues you read about are installer error.
Installing a clutch seems simple, but there are ways to warp the disc, bending it,not to mention failing cleaning the surfaces with the proper solvent causing slippage.
Look how many people install the disc backwards....
Installing a clutch seems simple, but there are ways to warp the disc, bending it,not to mention failing cleaning the surfaces with the proper solvent causing slippage.
Look how many people install the disc backwards....
The gm pressure plate has springs in it that allow it to adjust over time to keep the pedal engagement at a specific point as it wears. They do work and mine has done good so far but I do want to change it out for something better. As whignam said the aftermarket clutches that do now have this simply release better and improve shifting all around. My buddy installed a monster stage 3 in his car and as everyone else has reported on here, it made shifting much nicer.
The shifting is smoother and I feel that when I drive it I can literally just throw the shifter into the next gear immediately when I stab the clutch. Many people report much better shifting after switching tot his style clutch
The shifting is smoother and I feel that when I drive it I can literally just throw the shifter into the next gear immediately when I stab the clutch. Many people report much better shifting after switching tot his style clutch
I just received my Monster Stage 2 this past Friday. Full face kevlar disc, 28lb standard billet flywheel, Pressure Plate, ARP hardware, Tick Master, only unit that isn't new is my slave because the one in my car now has barely 1k miles on it.
Clutch looks solid. Can't wait to break her in properly and maybe do some launches... What are you guys launching at with the stock gears/10 bolt?? (after proper clutch break in of course)
Clutch looks solid. Can't wait to break her in properly and maybe do some launches... What are you guys launching at with the stock gears/10 bolt?? (after proper clutch break in of course)
Well, my package from Tick Performance arrived yesterday, but the only thing in it was their Tick Adjustable Master Cylinder. The invoice said the Monster Stage 3 clutch will be shipped to me directly from Monster, but it hasn't arrived yet. Here is the link to exactly what I ordered off Tick's website.
http://www.tickperformance.com/tick-...camaro-firebird/
Like I said, no GM Slave cylinder, clutch, flywheel, speed bleeder line, throwout bearing, pilot bearing or clutch alignment tool. Will all of these things come from Monster??? I'm confused.
http://www.tickperformance.com/tick-...camaro-firebird/
Like I said, no GM Slave cylinder, clutch, flywheel, speed bleeder line, throwout bearing, pilot bearing or clutch alignment tool. Will all of these things come from Monster??? I'm confused.
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Well, my package from Tick Performance arrived yesterday, but the only thing in it was their Tick Adjustable Master Cylinder. The invoice said the Monster Stage 3 clutch will be shipped to me directly from Monster, but it hasn't arrived yet. Here is the link to exactly what I ordered off Tick's website.
http://www.tickperformance.com/tick-...camaro-firebird/
Like I said, no GM Slave cylinder, clutch, flywheel, speed bleeder line, throwout bearing, pilot bearing or clutch alignment tool. Will all of these things come from Monster??? I'm confused.
http://www.tickperformance.com/tick-...camaro-firebird/
Like I said, no GM Slave cylinder, clutch, flywheel, speed bleeder line, throwout bearing, pilot bearing or clutch alignment tool. Will all of these things come from Monster??? I'm confused.
Just to clear some things up guys...
Our segmented vs full face wears the same, drives the same, and holds the same - easy stuff. No need to panic or get anxious - and as always if you ever have questions, comments, or concerns you can always email me or call us up.
As far as the "too many level 2 issues" - you need to understand that the level 2 is by far the most popular clutch we sell. We've shipped thousands of these things out and have admittedly only had a handful of complaints/issues. Of course, we strive to take care of guys when things happen and we do the absolute best we can in any given situation. We stand behind our stuff plain and simple - if it fails or gives you problems, even if it winds up not being clutch related, we'll be there.
Our segmented vs full face wears the same, drives the same, and holds the same - easy stuff. No need to panic or get anxious - and as always if you ever have questions, comments, or concerns you can always email me or call us up.
As far as the "too many level 2 issues" - you need to understand that the level 2 is by far the most popular clutch we sell. We've shipped thousands of these things out and have admittedly only had a handful of complaints/issues. Of course, we strive to take care of guys when things happen and we do the absolute best we can in any given situation. We stand behind our stuff plain and simple - if it fails or gives you problems, even if it winds up not being clutch related, we'll be there.
