Monster Level 2 Delivery!
03-13-2013, 03:21 PM
#1
Monster Level 2 Delivery! Just received my Monster Level 2 premium kit with 28lb flywheel and it looks awesome! Placed the order through the Ws6Store and their every day price is hard to beat.
Install will be this Sunday and I will have install pics along with a review of the clutch during the break-in period.
From looking at the disc it appears to be their segmented kevlar disk. I know they experimented with this disk a while back but unsure if this is now the standard disk. Maybe Steve can chime in.
Thanks
Install will be this Sunday and I will have install pics along with a review of the clutch during the break-in period.
From looking at the disc it appears to be their segmented kevlar disk. I know they experimented with this disk a while back but unsure if this is now the standard disk. Maybe Steve can chime in.
Thanks
03-13-2013, 03:52 PM
#2
From what I've been told the Monster Clutch info is listed wrong for the stage 2. The stage 2 disk is Kevlar and the stage 1 is the carbon/organic.
I'd really like to see the Monster clutch website, Tick website, and WS6store website update their information if it is incorrect. Is there someone I can talk to so we can get the correct information out there on the stage 2? I'd be willing to do the footwork and write the emails.
This is the stage 2 description that says the stage 2 is organic...
"They went back to the drawing board on the Level 2's trying to "one-up" themselves. They wanted to design a clutch that would take abuse, drive like stock, and last like a stock unit. By that they mean they want a unit that will go 40,000+ miles with abuse. The old Level 2's were great in their own right but dual friction units are old technology. They've said it themselves and they've hear others say it; a dual friction is only as good as its weakest friction side. They thought to themselves, "We've got some really stout carbon/organic frictions, and I've got a newly developed 11" pressure plate that puts out a staggering 3500+lbs plate load while still maintaining a decent pedal effort (8% stiffer than stock). Hell, let's throw them together and see what we get!" So they did this at the beginning of last year and they've had outstanding results! Numerous cars are over the 20,000 mile mark with ~60% of wear left, they all drive like a stock unit, and best of all they take abuse! Chris W's C5 Corvette has pushed this clutch to 11.0x numerous times and will look to go 10.5's with the same setup, all this with an organic you say? Hell yes! "
I'd really like to see the Monster clutch website, Tick website, and WS6store website update their information if it is incorrect. Is there someone I can talk to so we can get the correct information out there on the stage 2? I'd be willing to do the footwork and write the emails.
This is the stage 2 description that says the stage 2 is organic...
"They went back to the drawing board on the Level 2's trying to "one-up" themselves. They wanted to design a clutch that would take abuse, drive like stock, and last like a stock unit. By that they mean they want a unit that will go 40,000+ miles with abuse. The old Level 2's were great in their own right but dual friction units are old technology. They've said it themselves and they've hear others say it; a dual friction is only as good as its weakest friction side. They thought to themselves, "We've got some really stout carbon/organic frictions, and I've got a newly developed 11" pressure plate that puts out a staggering 3500+lbs plate load while still maintaining a decent pedal effort (8% stiffer than stock). Hell, let's throw them together and see what we get!" So they did this at the beginning of last year and they've had outstanding results! Numerous cars are over the 20,000 mile mark with ~60% of wear left, they all drive like a stock unit, and best of all they take abuse! Chris W's C5 Corvette has pushed this clutch to 11.0x numerous times and will look to go 10.5's with the same setup, all this with an organic you say? Hell yes! "
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03-13-2013, 04:16 PM
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Just received my Monster Level 2 premium kit with 28lb flywheel and it looks awesome! Placed the order through the Ws6Store and their every day price is hard to beat.
Install will be this Sunday and I will have install pics along with a review of the clutch during the break-in period.
From looking at the disc it appears to be their segmented kevlar disk. I know they experimented with this disk a while back but unsure if this is now the standard disk. Maybe Steve can chime in.
Thanks
Install will be this Sunday and I will have install pics along with a review of the clutch during the break-in period.
From looking at the disc it appears to be their segmented kevlar disk. I know they experimented with this disk a while back but unsure if this is now the standard disk. Maybe Steve can chime in.
Thanks
03-13-2013, 04:23 PM
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From what I've been told the Monster Clutch info is listed wrong for the stage 2. The stage 2 disk is Kevlar and the stage 1 is the carbon/organic.
I'd really like to see the Monster clutch website, Tick website, and WS6store website update their information if it is incorrect. Is there someone I can talk to so we can get the correct information out there on the stage 2? I'd be willing to do the footwork and write the emails.
This is the stage 2 description that says the stage 2 is organic...
"They went back to the drawing board on the Level 2's trying to "one-up" themselves. They wanted to design a clutch that would take abuse, drive like stock, and last like a stock unit. By that they mean they want a unit that will go 40,000+ miles with abuse. The old Level 2's were great in their own right but dual friction units are old technology. They've said it themselves and they've hear others say it; a dual friction is only as good as its weakest friction side. They thought to themselves, "We've got some really stout carbon/organic frictions, and I've got a newly developed 11" pressure plate that puts out a staggering 3500+lbs plate load while still maintaining a decent pedal effort (8% stiffer than stock). Hell, let's throw them together and see what we get!" So they did this at the beginning of last year and they've had outstanding results! Numerous cars are over the 20,000 mile mark with ~60% of wear left, they all drive like a stock unit, and best of all they take abuse! Chris W's C5 Corvette has pushed this clutch to 11.0x numerous times and will look to go 10.5's with the same setup, all this with an organic you say? Hell yes! "
I'd really like to see the Monster clutch website, Tick website, and WS6store website update their information if it is incorrect. Is there someone I can talk to so we can get the correct information out there on the stage 2? I'd be willing to do the footwork and write the emails.
This is the stage 2 description that says the stage 2 is organic...
"They went back to the drawing board on the Level 2's trying to "one-up" themselves. They wanted to design a clutch that would take abuse, drive like stock, and last like a stock unit. By that they mean they want a unit that will go 40,000+ miles with abuse. The old Level 2's were great in their own right but dual friction units are old technology. They've said it themselves and they've hear others say it; a dual friction is only as good as its weakest friction side. They thought to themselves, "We've got some really stout carbon/organic frictions, and I've got a newly developed 11" pressure plate that puts out a staggering 3500+lbs plate load while still maintaining a decent pedal effort (8% stiffer than stock). Hell, let's throw them together and see what we get!" So they did this at the beginning of last year and they've had outstanding results! Numerous cars are over the 20,000 mile mark with ~60% of wear left, they all drive like a stock unit, and best of all they take abuse! Chris W's C5 Corvette has pushed this clutch to 11.0x numerous times and will look to go 10.5's with the same setup, all this with an organic you say? Hell yes! "
03-14-2013, 10:46 AM
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UPDATE
Per Steve, I did indeed receive the segmented Kevlar disk and this is because his friction supplier will often send out different variations and they will have a small run of that disk type.
I am actually happy I received the segmented version as they typically dissipate heat better. They will hold the same power as the full face, but will just not heat up as quick. I will update the thread with install pictures this weekend!
Per Steve, I did indeed receive the segmented Kevlar disk and this is because his friction supplier will often send out different variations and they will have a small run of that disk type.
I am actually happy I received the segmented version as they typically dissipate heat better. They will hold the same power as the full face, but will just not heat up as quick. I will update the thread with install pictures this weekend!
03-14-2013, 12:56 PM
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From what I've been told the Monster Clutch info is listed wrong for the stage 2. The stage 2 disk is Kevlar and the stage 1 is the carbon/organic.
I'd really like to see the Monster clutch website, Tick website, and WS6store website update their information if it is incorrect. Is there someone I can talk to so we can get the correct information out there on the stage 2? I'd be willing to do the footwork and write the emails.
This is the stage 2 description that says the stage 2 is organic...
"They went back to the drawing board on the Level 2's trying to "one-up" themselves. They wanted to design a clutch that would take abuse, drive like stock, and last like a stock unit. By that they mean they want a unit that will go 40,000+ miles with abuse. The old Level 2's were great in their own right but dual friction units are old technology. They've said it themselves and they've hear others say it; a dual friction is only as good as its weakest friction side. They thought to themselves, "We've got some really stout carbon/organic frictions, and I've got a newly developed 11" pressure plate that puts out a staggering 3500+lbs plate load while still maintaining a decent pedal effort (8% stiffer than stock). Hell, let's throw them together and see what we get!" So they did this at the beginning of last year and they've had outstanding results! Numerous cars are over the 20,000 mile mark with ~60% of wear left, they all drive like a stock unit, and best of all they take abuse! Chris W's C5 Corvette has pushed this clutch to 11.0x numerous times and will look to go 10.5's with the same setup, all this with an organic you say? Hell yes! "
I'd really like to see the Monster clutch website, Tick website, and WS6store website update their information if it is incorrect. Is there someone I can talk to so we can get the correct information out there on the stage 2? I'd be willing to do the footwork and write the emails.
This is the stage 2 description that says the stage 2 is organic...
"They went back to the drawing board on the Level 2's trying to "one-up" themselves. They wanted to design a clutch that would take abuse, drive like stock, and last like a stock unit. By that they mean they want a unit that will go 40,000+ miles with abuse. The old Level 2's were great in their own right but dual friction units are old technology. They've said it themselves and they've hear others say it; a dual friction is only as good as its weakest friction side. They thought to themselves, "We've got some really stout carbon/organic frictions, and I've got a newly developed 11" pressure plate that puts out a staggering 3500+lbs plate load while still maintaining a decent pedal effort (8% stiffer than stock). Hell, let's throw them together and see what we get!" So they did this at the beginning of last year and they've had outstanding results! Numerous cars are over the 20,000 mile mark with ~60% of wear left, they all drive like a stock unit, and best of all they take abuse! Chris W's C5 Corvette has pushed this clutch to 11.0x numerous times and will look to go 10.5's with the same setup, all this with an organic you say? Hell yes! "
Is the info for the Stage 3 Monster Clutch wrong too? Reason I ask is because I ordered one from Tick Performance over a week ago.
03-14-2013, 01:13 PM
#11
I don't know. I was just curious for a while about why the stage 2 was rated higher than the stage 1. Like what was the difference in the clutches? I read the descriptions over and over and couldn't figure it out. I emailed monster a few days ago and was told the stage 2 is Kevlar and the stage 1 is organic.
03-14-2013, 01:47 PM
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I don't know. I was just curious for a while about why the stage 2 was rated higher than the stage 1. Like what was the difference in the clutches? I read the descriptions over and over and couldn't figure it out. I emailed monster a few days ago and was told the stage 2 is Kevlar and the stage 1 is organic.
03-14-2013, 01:56 PM
#13
Per their site, the level 3 is cerametallic. It is a much more "grabby" material than kevlar but does tend to wear faster... I have the stock 10 bolt and with the level 3 I knew it would exploit the weak link in my drive train which is the rear, and break it. Kevlar can be "slipped" and fits my needs much better.
03-14-2013, 04:17 PM
#14
Per their site, the level 3 is cerametallic. It is a much more "grabby" material than kevlar but does tend to wear faster... I have the stock 10 bolt and with the level 3 I knew it would exploit the weak link in my drive train which is the rear, and break it. Kevlar can be "slipped" and fits my needs much better.
03-14-2013, 04:57 PM
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UPDATE
Per Steve, I did indeed receive the segmented Kevlar disk and this is because his friction supplier will often send out different variations and they will have a small run of that disk type.
I am actually happy I received the segmented version as they typically dissipate heat better. They will hold the same power as the full face, but will just not heat up as quick. I will update the thread with install pictures this weekend!
Per Steve, I did indeed receive the segmented Kevlar disk and this is because his friction supplier will often send out different variations and they will have a small run of that disk type.
I am actually happy I received the segmented version as they typically dissipate heat better. They will hold the same power as the full face, but will just not heat up as quick. I will update the thread with install pictures this weekend!
03-15-2013, 12:02 AM
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03-15-2013, 10:01 AM
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I saw a post where a guy weighed them on corvette forum and the stock LS6 clutch assembly comes in right at 50lbs.
The monster level 2 WITH lightened flywheel is 42.5 with a normal weight flywheel that would be 52.5 lbs....
Just for referance an ls7 assembly comes in at 60lbs! :guns My next clutch will be a monster level with a light flywheel
The monster level 2 WITH lightened flywheel is 42.5 with a normal weight flywheel that would be 52.5 lbs....
Just for referance an ls7 assembly comes in at 60lbs! :guns My next clutch will be a monster level with a light flywheel
03-16-2013, 10:57 AM
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I saw a post where a guy weighed them on corvette forum and the stock LS6 clutch assembly comes in right at 50lbs.
The monster level 2 WITH lightened flywheel is 42.5 with a normal weight flywheel that would be 52.5 lbs....
Just for referance an ls7 assembly comes in at 60lbs! :guns My next clutch will be a monster level with a light flywheel
The monster level 2 WITH lightened flywheel is 42.5 with a normal weight flywheel that would be 52.5 lbs....
Just for referance an ls7 assembly comes in at 60lbs! :guns My next clutch will be a monster level with a light flywheel
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