z28-50

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1995 Camaro 6-speed

Considering a new shifter, my stock shifter is worn. If you see how these are built inside the ball is slightly loose in cup.

What is so wrong with the stock shifter if it is a brand new unit other than a long throw. If you want more pressure for the shift feel Hurst replacement springs can be used.

It just seems like such a simple design what makes the aftermarket shifters that much better?

NW-99SS

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You highlighted the issues. Loose ball = sloppy feel. Long throw. I will add rubber mounts of the shifter handle to the base itself as well.

z28-50

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Was the ball manufactured loose when new?
If so that's the end of the game right there.

No rubber mounts on 95's.

@NW-99SS

madhatter

If it has the stock shifter and handle it has rubber. IMO the handle is way worse than the shifter itself. Throw a short stick on it and you would never guess it's the stock shifter.

dailydriver

You can still buy a NEW stock shifter for these cars??
I would have thought that GM discontinued those LONG LONG ago?!

Firebrian

I guess ignorance is bliss. I drove a stock 1993 TA M6 for several years putting over 30,000 miles on it. Never knew the shifter was sloppy/crappy. It shifted smooth as silk for me, never notchy, and I didn't miss any more shifts back then than I do today with my Hurst short throw in my '99 SS. I sort of wish I had that same shifter back today...lol.

guppymech

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I just did some looking and the stock T56 shifter with the stamped steel base (not the OEM Hurst unit) is still available, averaging $110. P/N 1252303 Control.

z28-50

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Maybe my stock shifter is a factory Hurst job. No part numbers.

guppymech

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Yep that is a Hurst unit. The GM Hurst has the stub angled towards the driver, aftermarket Hurst Competition Plus has a straight stub. It's funny I bought a NOS GM Hurst shifter and after 15K it got sloppy, pulled my stock shifter out of storage to check it out and it has zero play in the pivot with 107K on it. I reworked the Hurst to remove the play and shimmed the 2-3 spring for more tension, it works good now.

z28-50

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How did you rework it?
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guppymech

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The plastic pivot was worn from the shifter body in two areas so I turned it 90 degrees so it would pivot on a unworn section. Next I filed a small amount off of the steel inserts that fit in the cavities that the stick pins fit in, they also serve as the spring seats. I shortened the inserts just enough to eliminate the side to side play in the stick. I shimmed the spring that brings the shifter from the 1-2 gate to the 3-4 gate with a washer to increase the tension to help with the 2-3 shift. Re-assemble with plenty of grease to try and avoid future pivot ball wear. That's it.
I have the factory Hurst shifter, it's been a while since I've seen it but I think it's top plate is different than yours. You might have the Hurst Comp Plus but the guts may be the same.

Firebrian

Checked the stock GM shifter than came off my '99 SS and I don't see any part numbers on it....just the Patent No.

dailydriver

I'm surprised, given the way that GM cannot wait to discontinue other, (even essential to pass state inspections) parts for these cars.

scotty2000ss

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Take your car to the track one time and you'll hate the stock shifter. Trust me lol