hourang

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hrm lets see, maybe that has something to do with the increased power? hehe. ls1s rule

97bowtie

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The LT1 was a low 12 second car.

Camaro99SS

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I don't think the LT1 6spds are that much different internally than 98-00 T56's. Both are pretty tough. You could get a stock T56 to last a long time powershifting if you're good enough to never rub synchros on shifts, but you could kill one or any manual if you hit synchros alot racing or messing around on the street. Most of it is driver related IMO provided you've done the drill mod and have upgraded hydraulics.

Jason

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My LS1 survived a MAJOR misshift last December.

I grabbed 2nd at 88 mph, and didn't get out of it. I was racing a twin turbo 5.0 at Bradenton.

When I looked in my rear view mirror, I was looking for the yard sale!

waltsfastz

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Mines survived a couple of major mishifts.

hourang

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not saying for that particular car, but in general ls1s have more power, there are a lot of ls1s running 12s basically stock, combine that, with ppl powershifting or jamming gears, missing gears, etc. they just wont last as long. in fact, i think the 98s have the same trans as the 97s, the borg warner.

FLeXNuTZ

How many people buy a LT1 car for $6000 or less and keep it stock? Not many if they are buying it for performance. And if $6000 is all you have then you shouldn't be buying a sports car, lol. I bought my '95 Z28 for $5250 with a slammin' stereo in it and 67000 miles back in September of '04. It has been wrecked but it is fixed and drives perfectly fine. I guess it just irritates me when people talk down on the LT1, especially since it has soooo much potential and can be had for less than 6k. I will be selling my Z28 and buying a LS1 Trans Am pretty soon because I love the way the '98-'02 TAs look, not because of the LS1 under the hood. I've seen several LT1s that would take a Yamaha R1, much less a LS1 F-body. Rant over.

8-Pack

Dude LS1's are miles above and beyond an LT1. Nothing against the 2nd gen small block, I felt the same way as you before I got my firebird. The LT1 does sound so bad *** though. The Lt1 is an awesome engine the LS1 is just awesome(er)

nspr8td lt1

ever seen joe overton's car? btw i have a ls1, but your statement is RETARDED.

waltsfastz

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^Couldnt have said it better

02SOMWS6

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To get back on topic, your stock clutch wont last too long. My 02 had the Z06 upgraded clutch and at 850 miles I started to run the car at the track on E.T. slicks. I got about 30 passes out of it before it would start to slip on the launch. With the stock clutch the best the stock clutch would get me was a 11.5 at 119mph with a 1.62 60ft. Since I changed the clutch I can launch the car now at 6000 RPM and pull a 1.56-1.50 60ft.My sig has my stock clutch pass.I have done a ton of mods since my sig but not quite where I want to be yet so I havent changed it.

SSmith

HEY 02SOMWS6,
Very nice launch on your vid. Do you have the stock rear axle still?
What clutch you using now? I'm looking for a new clutch my stock "zo6" clutch is about goner at 12,000 Miles on the clock.

8-Pack

Explain please, taking both engines in stock form are you trying to tell me that the LT1 is a better engine? The LS1 has more potential out of the box, I thought this has been beaten to death. Nobody ever said that LT1's arent fast or cant be made to be fast or that there arent fast LT1's out there. But please explain how my statment is RETARDED?

nspr8td lt1

out of the box they are a little slower, but when you get down to building them there isnt one that's faster.

i never said the LT1 was better. i just said saying the ALLMIGHTY ls1 is better is a retarded statement.

do you know why the ls1 is faster stock?? ever seen a comparison of the lt1/ls1 cylinder heads??

8-Pack

That can be said for any motor,, any given engine can be faster then any other engine once the real work starts. There are engines that will respond better once you start bulding them. I dont normally make statements w/ having facts to back them up but, I would be willing to bet there arent any cam only LT1's in the 10's, but there are plenty of cam only LS1's in the 10's. Yes it is because the cylinder heads on the LS1 are better flowing then the LT1, but you are only as strong as your weakest link. All that being said plus the gas mileage and reliability of the LS1 on top of the fact that the LT1 was an improvement on the orginal small block versus the fact that the LS1 was a complete redesign of the SBC, I really dont think my statment is retarded at all. This really dosent need to turn into one more thread about LS1 vs LT1 there are plenty (and this is the wrong forum) but I dont see how you can tell me saying the LS1 is a better engine then the LT1 is retarted in any way. Engines make more power thats their job, given the same mods the LS1 will make more, LS1 does its job better, its a better engine.

777

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https://ls1tech.com/forums/etdb.php you might want to take a look at the first two cars on there...note that they are not lt1's

777

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blaming poor head design on an lt1 is like blaming an 03 cobra for having a supercharger....now THAT is retarded

97M6Formula

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Now take this into consideration too...How much did you guys spend for that cam? 400.00?What about every other part that costs 150-200 more than a lt1 part..Also to the guy that said look at the list do you honestly know how many lt1 cars could be on the top but they arent members on here... Go over to camaroz28.com and look at some of the times... Sure the ls1 is more advanced but to dawg the lt1 like that is just ignorance.. Dont be jealous because my fully forged shortblock costs 2300.00 balanced and ready when yours is twice thatI had an ls1 before but I got tired of it eating so much oil once you do a cam swap and paying too much for internals and boltons... Look how much an intake costs for a LS1. If you wanna go fast for cheaper you cant go wrong with the 12 year old motor.. We all here have the same goal and were suppose to help eachother out but im just getting real tired of ls1 owners and other car owners thinking that engine is so inferior(except for when Im racing for money)


BTW the LT1 transes are sronger since they use all borg warner parts instead of a mix between BW and tremec... it is proven that the tremecs are weaker(excluding viper)

777

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man i'm not saying the ls1 is the best engine ever built but you need to take some of your own advice...cause you're basically saying the lt1 is a far better engine...http://keithcraftmotorsports.com/our...s1.asp...there is a fully forged 347 shortblock for 2995...that is far from 4600...from what i gathered from camaroz28.com is that the record 60' time comes from an ls1...Worlds Fastest LT1 - 8.35@168 1.35 60'...ronnie duke has gone 7's

2MuchRiceMakesMeSick

And after all that I see your in the 12 second club....... on a forged motor.....