Liberty's T56
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My Liberty race prepped Faceplated TKO600 is in, and with one day of driving I have it licked. It's by far the smoothest shifting street 5 speed I've driven and I can't believe I was scared to buy this for street driving. In one day I learned to drive this and now can drive without any gear clunks, It's easy stuff really. First gear still has synch, 2nd, 3rd and 4th are facplated with 5th synched as well. No double clutching needed to shift snooth. When shifting below 3k all I have to do is wait for the rpms to drop 1000 rpm and it slides in like butter no sound at all. Above 3k I just shift fast and get a very clean metalic feel with no real noise. The higher the RPM the faster and smoother it shifts. This has got to be the coolest upgrade to my car since the A2A, just plain bad ***. Down shifting without noise requires a little more practive but not hard. For some reason 3 to 4 upshift or down is the easyest to do really not much there. From 5th to 4th at speed you need to blip the throttle to rev match with small clunk. If you don't want a clunk in any down shifts just let the car slow down alot before down shift and it's smooth and effortless. This trans can be shifted as tame as any snchronized 5 speed with just a little practice and it will become habit very fast. I'm writing this because of all the neg feedback I read on street driving a faceplated trans over the pst month. There is so much miss information out there saying it's not streetable and that's just plain crap. Anyone who drives a high horsepower street car already has the right frame of mind and would love the very connected and mechanical feel. To me taken out the synchronizartion makes it so much more fun to drive and you can feel how fast and smooth shifting can be.
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Thanks, I will keep that in mind. I am most likely going to faceplate my trans just thought it would be nice to ride in one. I plan on pulling it out in the next couple of weeks wish I would of thought of this "ride-along" earlier.
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I just found out that I can not face plate a corvette trans. There's not enough gear left to weld the faceplated gear on after they cut the double blocker rings off. So after I buy a new gear set I might as well spend a little more and get a tr6060.
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Question for you guys, I have already brought all of the stage 2 parts to rebuild my t56 (billet 1-2 & 3-4 shift keys, bronze shift fork pads 1-6, steel 3-4 shift fork, bronze shifter bushing, new bearings/races and 1-6 synchros, carbon fiber blocking rings etc) and after reading this thread I am going to faceplate it while it's apart so I can drag race without worry of killing the synchros. What else do I need to send to liberty besides the 1-4 gears and which new parts do I leave out also what fluid are you guys using, is synchromesh ok?
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mines got about 15k on it. No problems yet and I daily drive it behind a mild 403 with a 9" and locker. You do have to be on your shifting a game all the time though. Dont want to try putting it in 3rd on the highway, thinking you're grabbing 5th. DOH! Did that once after changing the radio station in between shifts. Noisy! I do drive the hell out of the car BTW.
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Libertys does Ticks faceplate work, I have seen the lugs torn off at the welds before like yours, usually from hitting the wrong gear. Saw someone downshift to third and hit first and tore one off once.
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When I talked to Amber @ sixspeeds about doing my faceplating, she said joe welds the rings on, then clearances the liberty shift slider whereas liberty grinds the welds for clearance and this takes away from the integrity of the weld. When I got all my stuff back from them (sixspeeds) I test fit everything and had to hone the gear bores for clearance since welding the rings on shrinks the bores AND I chucked the sliders in the lathe to clearance them for the welds on the gear rings on 3rd/4th. I think I was one of the last people to get my trans back from them BTW before everything blew up with their business and I wasnt too upset having to do the fit work myself....especially in hindsight.
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When I talked to Amber @ sixspeeds about doing my faceplating, she said joe welds the rings on, then clearances the liberty shift slider whereas liberty grinds the welds for clearance and this takes away from the integrity of the weld. When I got all my stuff back from them (sixspeeds) I test fit everything and had to hone the gear bores for clearance since welding the rings on shrinks the bores AND I chucked the sliders in the lathe to clearance them for the welds on the gear rings on 3rd/4th. I think I was one of the last people to get my trans back from them BTW before everything blew up with their business and I wasnt too upset having to do the fit work myself....especially in hindsight.
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I really want to see a magnum out of a high horsepower car and see what is torn up in it.