Clutch riding debate
06-20-2006, 01:20 AM
#1
Clutch riding debate My friend Tondss and I are debating about "riding the clutch"
His take: It is not a problem to leave your foot "resting" on the pedal between gears and when cruising at a study speed. He drove my car for ~300 miles and I constatly had to scold him for leaving his foot on my clutch. He said he doesn't depress it at all, but a couple times I caught it actually pop out a few mm when he moved his foot.
My take: This is a TERRIBLE habit to have driving a manual transmission. Even when just resting your foot on the clutch a couple mm can shorten overall the life span of a clutch r its componets.
***disclaimer: he claims it was never pressed in at all, yet I saw the pedal move after I told him to move his foot. He says I must have been looking at his flip flop....though he was barefoot
Opinions? Who is right? Or more right at least?
His take: It is not a problem to leave your foot "resting" on the pedal between gears and when cruising at a study speed. He drove my car for ~300 miles and I constatly had to scold him for leaving his foot on my clutch. He said he doesn't depress it at all, but a couple times I caught it actually pop out a few mm when he moved his foot.
My take: This is a TERRIBLE habit to have driving a manual transmission. Even when just resting your foot on the clutch a couple mm can shorten overall the life span of a clutch r its componets.
***disclaimer: he claims it was never pressed in at all, yet I saw the pedal move after I told him to move his foot. He says I must have been looking at his flip flop....though he was barefoot
Opinions? Who is right? Or more right at least?
Last edited by ninetres; 06-20-2006 at 01:31 AM.
06-20-2006, 01:35 AM
#2
10 Second Club
iTrader: (38)
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Fresno, CA
Posts: 1,411
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
ok riding your foot on the pedal is bad(being pressed in a good amount having the full weight more or less). i see how that can hurt it but when in the middle of going from 1 stop to another when decideing if im going to shift i would like to have my foot lightly toucing the peddal in case of needed to shift faster.
yes i had my foot on the pedal at times , when it didnt need to be witch i know is bad ,but our discution is over if you can have your foot on the pedal at all and how bad that is for it.
our discustion is whehter when i had my foot on the clutch pedal befor shifting or if i was driveing when i had my ball of my foot resting on the carpet and the heal (toe area) on the pedal no where near engagement witch is towards the complete top of let out of the pedal....
how bad is this, more then shifting inbetween gears from light to light ?
yes i had my foot on the pedal at times , when it didnt need to be witch i know is bad ,but our discution is over if you can have your foot on the pedal at all and how bad that is for it.
our discustion is whehter when i had my foot on the clutch pedal befor shifting or if i was driveing when i had my ball of my foot resting on the carpet and the heal (toe area) on the pedal no where near engagement witch is towards the complete top of let out of the pedal....
how bad is this, more then shifting inbetween gears from light to light ?
06-20-2006, 01:39 AM
#3
Originally Posted by TondSS
ok riding your foot on the pedal is bad(being pressed in a good amount having the full weight more or less). i see how that can hurt it but when in the middle of going from 1 stop to another when decideing if im going to shift i would like to have my foot lightly toucing the peddal in case of needed to shift faster.
yes i had my foot on the pedal at times , when it didnt need to be witch i know is bad ,but our discution is over if you can have your foot on the pedal at all and how bad that is for it.
our discustion is whehter when i had my foot on the clutch pedal befor shifting or if i was driveing when i had my ball of my foot resting on the carpet and the heal (toe area) on the pedal no where near engagement witch is towards the complete top of let out of the pedal....
how bad is this, more then shifting inbetween gears from light to light ?
yes i had my foot on the pedal at times , when it didnt need to be witch i know is bad ,but our discution is over if you can have your foot on the pedal at all and how bad that is for it.
our discustion is whehter when i had my foot on the clutch pedal befor shifting or if i was driveing when i had my ball of my foot resting on the carpet and the heal (toe area) on the pedal no where near engagement witch is towards the complete top of let out of the pedal....
how bad is this, more then shifting inbetween gears from light to light ?
Looks like you are already coming around Tondss. Nice sugar coating of your habit in that post BTW. You left your foot chillin on my clutch while cruising too.
I think you guys get the point. Who is more or less correct?
06-20-2006, 01:46 AM
#4
10 Second Club
iTrader: (38)
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Fresno, CA
Posts: 1,411
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
yes , a few times maybe i did not notcing it or thinking for somereason i was going to shift. however that is not my argument becaus i know resting your foot is BAD!
but i think there is a difference from resting your hole foot on the peddle(yes this is bad) , to resting your foot on the floor board and having your toes /ball touching the pedal for in case of need of shift fast for any reason(i dont think this is bad.)
if it was or is bad how bad can it be for it........the clutch pedal over a foot of movement to engage or disingage . and a millimeter or so of having your toes on it is bad when resting your foot on the floor board!?!
just curious, its seems to be that is isnt bad unless your are driving and resting your hole foot on the pedel.
but i think there is a difference from resting your hole foot on the peddle(yes this is bad) , to resting your foot on the floor board and having your toes /ball touching the pedal for in case of need of shift fast for any reason(i dont think this is bad.)
if it was or is bad how bad can it be for it........the clutch pedal over a foot of movement to engage or disingage . and a millimeter or so of having your toes on it is bad when resting your foot on the floor board!?!
just curious, its seems to be that is isnt bad unless your are driving and resting your hole foot on the pedel.
Last edited by TondSS; 06-20-2006 at 01:53 AM.
06-20-2006, 01:59 AM
#6
10 Second Club
iTrader: (38)
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Fresno, CA
Posts: 1,411
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
my point is yes i probly did ride your clutch a few times and if i did that im sorry but then the argument went to weather it was bad or not to have your foot on the pedal at all......
once again rideing the clutch is bad and everyone knows that .....
so A were on the same page with that
you said having your foot anywhere near it (being on it no matter if its the ball of your foot or barrley even touching it with your toes at all while driving was bad....and maybe im misinformed and maybe it can lead to bad habbits; howerver im sure when manufacturing clutches the people, thought about that in the first place and left a minute space of play for this very reason.
maybe thats why i switched to a th-400 i still dont think that resting your ball of the foot slash heal is not bad as long as your not engaging anything
signing out clutch riding master , remeind me to not drive your car for you i dont want to hurt your clutch anymore
once again rideing the clutch is bad and everyone knows that .....
so A were on the same page with that
you said having your foot anywhere near it (being on it no matter if its the ball of your foot or barrley even touching it with your toes at all while driving was bad....and maybe im misinformed and maybe it can lead to bad habbits; howerver im sure when manufacturing clutches the people, thought about that in the first place and left a minute space of play for this very reason.
maybe thats why i switched to a th-400 i still dont think that resting your ball of the foot slash heal is not bad as long as your not engaging anything
signing out clutch riding master , remeind me to not drive your car for you i dont want to hurt your clutch anymore Trending Topics
06-20-2006, 02:11 AM
#8
10 Second Club
iTrader: (38)
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Fresno, CA
Posts: 1,411
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by ninetres
Tondss, you are full of ****, I knew this thread was a bad idea you wouldn't be able to handle honestly. Keep on lying clutch riding master!!!!!!!!
you told me you were done with this thread 
Last edited by TondSS; 06-20-2006 at 02:17 AM.
06-20-2006, 02:15 AM
#9
10 Second Club
iTrader: (38)
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Fresno, CA
Posts: 1,411
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
what happend was ninetress had lost his licence. so i was doing him a favor of driving his car with him for 300 miles however we were trying to get 500. in that week to brake his new ram hd clutch in. we only had that week to do so. 2 days befor the track day , they decided they would close the track that day!! that is the hole reason for driving the car around. we were suposed to go...then there was no point in driving his car at all, we wasted all that gas for nothing!
he cought me riding his clutch appaently and this is how it all started.
he cought me riding his clutch appaently and this is how it all started.
06-20-2006, 04:19 AM
#10
TECH Apprentice
iTrader: (3)
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Kopavogur ,Iceland
Posts: 348
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
there is nothing wrong with resting your foot on the clutch. there are a few MM or even posibly 1 or 2cm that is a deadzone on the clutch this has no affect on wear but it is a bad habit thoug. i often do this myself ninetres you shuld just chil out. this seems to be your first manual shifted car
06-20-2006, 04:28 AM
#11
Originally Posted by old and good
there is nothing wrong with resting your foot on the clutch. there are a few MM or even posibly 1 or 2cm that is a deadzone on the clutch this has no affect on wear but it is a bad habit thoug. i often do this myself ninetres you shuld just chil out. this seems to be your first manual shifted car
I am SUPER **** about a proper breakin on my clutch as you can tell
Tondss......1
me...........0
I should have made this a poll damnit!!!
06-20-2006, 10:44 AM
#12
12 Second Club
iTrader: (2)
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Palos Hills, IL
Posts: 3,321
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
can someone delete this as it is just another argumentative thread, it's really not stating anything just someone whining about something that affected nothing and trying to prove a point that wasnt even initiated.
06-20-2006, 03:15 PM
#14
its considered bad form from most racers... atleast road racers.. thats why they put deadpedals in.. so you can rest your foot on it, brace your leg in corners, ect..
now is it physically harmful to the LS1s hydraulic clutch? probly not.
is it harmful to some other clutches? yes. an example im fimilar with would be a 1974 trumph spitfire... amoung a few others.
but.. because its harmful to some, (yes, even with light pressure... remember 1lb of weight at the pedal might be 10lbs or more at the pressure plate) i can understand someone being upset about it.
so while it might not have hurt his car..... its still a bad habit to have.
now is it physically harmful to the LS1s hydraulic clutch? probly not.
is it harmful to some other clutches? yes. an example im fimilar with would be a 1974 trumph spitfire... amoung a few others.
but.. because its harmful to some, (yes, even with light pressure... remember 1lb of weight at the pedal might be 10lbs or more at the pressure plate) i can understand someone being upset about it.
so while it might not have hurt his car..... its still a bad habit to have.
06-20-2006, 03:58 PM
#15
10 Second Club
iTrader: (38)
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Fresno, CA
Posts: 1,411
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by MrDude_1
now is it physically harmful to the LS1s hydraulic clutch? probly not.
so while it might not have hurt his car..... its still a bad habit to have.
so while it might not have hurt his car..... its still a bad habit to have.
say your sorry ninetrestold you i wouldnt get clowned ninetres!
tondss=4
ninetres0
thank you!
06-20-2006, 04:40 PM
#16
Originally Posted by TondSS
and this is not about habbit but anyway i agree
say your sorry ninetres
told you i wouldnt get clowned ninetres!
tondss=4
ninetres0
thank you!
say your sorry ninetrestold you i wouldnt get clowned ninetres!
tondss=4
ninetres0
thank you!
I just counted all 3 other members that posted saying not to do it.
06-20-2006, 05:15 PM
#18
Originally Posted by MrDude_1
honestly, id ask you to not do it if it was my car too....
.... although i wouldnt be a lil bitch about it either and post it on LS1 tech.
i think you both should just kick each others asses, then go out and have a beer together.... lol
.... although i wouldnt be a lil bitch about it either and post it on LS1 tech.
i think you both should just kick each others asses, then go out and have a beer together.... lol
06-20-2006, 05:27 PM
#19
10 Second Club
iTrader: (38)
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Fresno, CA
Posts: 1,411
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
na its cool its not over if "its a bad habbit or not " its over if it hurts the clutch or not ! witch ive talk to several companies already and found out it doesnt hurt the clutch one bit with the hydraulic systems !
06-20-2006, 05:31 PM
#20
FormerVendor
iTrader: (7)
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Lubbock
Posts: 1,106
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by MrDude_1
because its harmful to some, (yes, even with light pressure... remember 1lb of weight at the pedal might be 10lbs or more at the pressure plate) i can understand someone being upset about it.
so while it might not have hurt his car..... its still a bad habit to have.
so while it might not have hurt his car..... its still a bad habit to have.
