B&M Ripper, hard push over to REVERSE!
#1
B&M Ripper, hard push over to REVERSE!
Just as the title states, I just put a B&M Ripper into my 00' SS, and it takes all my might to get it over to reverse.
Have any of you guys had this problem either with the B&M or any other short throw?
Any help is appreciated.
BTW ALL other gears go in nice and smooth.
Have any of you guys had this problem either with the B&M or any other short throw?
Any help is appreciated.
BTW ALL other gears go in nice and smooth.
#7
This is driving the car-not key off shifting. I noticed it when I went to take it for its first run.
I Would shift it all the way over to "reverse" but the car would slowly creep forward (5th). So thats when I figured it out that it would take He-man to shift it over to reverse.
Im not new to swappin' out a shifter, Ive had them on all my stangs, and even have a Pro-ripper on my 03' Cobra.
But the SS is the wifes car, and if I had a hard time I know she wont be able to get it there.
The problem is NOT going up INTO reverse, it seems like the spring tension shifting OVER to reverse is too strong.
So again any info would help.
I Would shift it all the way over to "reverse" but the car would slowly creep forward (5th). So thats when I figured it out that it would take He-man to shift it over to reverse.
Im not new to swappin' out a shifter, Ive had them on all my stangs, and even have a Pro-ripper on my 03' Cobra.
But the SS is the wifes car, and if I had a hard time I know she wont be able to get it there.
The problem is NOT going up INTO reverse, it seems like the spring tension shifting OVER to reverse is too strong.
So again any info would help.
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#9
Spring tension in the shifter has nothing to do with it. Those are little springs that just aid in centering the shifter. You are describing what sounds like the reverse lock out being engaged. Like, just getting into the gate is hard. Once over, it pushes up into gear easy... right?
First thing I would do is check the fuses out. I forget which fuse controls that solenoid, but someone will chime in. Or just check them all. Under the hood and in the dash.
I dont see how you could have messed up wiring from just doing a shifter, but double check and make sure no wires got pinched or cut.
Im willing to bet you popped a fuse somehow...or its just a coincidence that it blew during the shifter install.
Justin
First thing I would do is check the fuses out. I forget which fuse controls that solenoid, but someone will chime in. Or just check them all. Under the hood and in the dash.
I dont see how you could have messed up wiring from just doing a shifter, but double check and make sure no wires got pinched or cut.
Im willing to bet you popped a fuse somehow...or its just a coincidence that it blew during the shifter install.
Justin
Last edited by ghettocruiser; 05-01-2007 at 01:31 PM.
#10
ghettocruiser, exactly- going into the gate is hard- but going into gear is easy.
When I had the shifter out I did do the skip shift eliminator through the shifter opening so that I wouldnt have to do it from underneath the car.
Would that have anything to do with the reverse lockout? And no I didn't pull the neg. battery cable to do any of it.
When I had the shifter out I did do the skip shift eliminator through the shifter opening so that I wouldnt have to do it from underneath the car.
Would that have anything to do with the reverse lockout? And no I didn't pull the neg. battery cable to do any of it.
#11
There is always the chance that something shorted out long enough to blow the reverse lock out fuse. Installing the eliminator shouldnt effect the lock out at all though...as long as everything goes the way it should.
Looks like the skip shift and the rev. lock out share the same fuse and power source. According the schematic im looking at, its the ENG SEN fuse and its a 20A. Its in the underhood fuse box...the lower one I think. I would check that sucker out. Actually...looks like quite a few things run off that fuse. So some other stuff shouldnt be wokring if its blown...but check it out anyway.
If its blown, pop a new one in. If it blows again, there is a short somewhere, or there is an issue with the skip shift eliminator causing it to blow. Ive never heard of one of those eliminators causing problems though.
Justin
P.S. the wiring diagram Im looking at is for an 00 Camaro. So it should be good info for ya...
Looks like the skip shift and the rev. lock out share the same fuse and power source. According the schematic im looking at, its the ENG SEN fuse and its a 20A. Its in the underhood fuse box...the lower one I think. I would check that sucker out. Actually...looks like quite a few things run off that fuse. So some other stuff shouldnt be wokring if its blown...but check it out anyway.
If its blown, pop a new one in. If it blows again, there is a short somewhere, or there is an issue with the skip shift eliminator causing it to blow. Ive never heard of one of those eliminators causing problems though.
Justin
P.S. the wiring diagram Im looking at is for an 00 Camaro. So it should be good info for ya...
Last edited by ghettocruiser; 05-01-2007 at 02:00 PM.
#13
lock out solenoid 200% my car is doing the same thing after i changed to my shifter, something is either up with the plug/harness in there or the actual solenoid is screwed...either way its THAT. Reverse is a biiiiiiiiiiiiitch to put in without that thing huh lmao god i hate it
#14
Solenoids are pretty simple devices. They dont go bad very often. Atleast not one that operates as little as the reverse lock out one. So my suspects would be wiring/fuses/grounds first. If everything checks out, Im sure there is a way to test for power/ground at the solenoid plug itself. And if the elec is good, then replace the solenoid.
Some guys that have done swaps like me just deleted it. Stuck a plug in the hole and called it good. Which is fine... But I like it. Now you see how hard it is to go into rev. with it not working, you see how hard it is to accidently shift into rev. while driving. I hooked mine up to a button on my shifter ball. So when I want rev. I just push the little button and go into rev.
Sorry that was off subject kinda... Let us know what you find Nick.
J.
Some guys that have done swaps like me just deleted it. Stuck a plug in the hole and called it good. Which is fine... But I like it. Now you see how hard it is to go into rev. with it not working, you see how hard it is to accidently shift into rev. while driving. I hooked mine up to a button on my shifter ball. So when I want rev. I just push the little button and go into rev.
Sorry that was off subject kinda... Let us know what you find Nick.
J.
#15
All right everybody, fuse is GOOD.
What next?
Fenix999, did you swap out the skip shift at the same time like I did or just straight shifter swap?
I'm thinking i'll put the skip shift back to stock just to see what happens.
Any other suggestions guys?
What next?
Fenix999, did you swap out the skip shift at the same time like I did or just straight shifter swap?
I'm thinking i'll put the skip shift back to stock just to see what happens.
Any other suggestions guys?
#17
Originally Posted by stangmus
The solenoid that is closet to the shifter, on the drivers side through the shifter hole, is the reverse lockout. Did you plug your skip shift into that?
Like a complete idiot, I just realized I did!
I noticed when I drove the car tonight that the skip shift still kicked in. And after reading my repair manual realized that must have been what I did.
With sensor specific harness plugs, you wouldnt think that the skip shift and reverse lockout could plug in the same. But obviously they do.
Thanks for all your help guys, and hopefully this trial and error thread will help others out who may have done the same thing.
#18
Haha...I just realized that those two connectors were close to the same if not the same...
Even when I read that you did the skipt shift eliminator through the shifter hole, I was thinking "man thats kinda far to reach through that hole.."
So did you flip things around and get it all working???
Justin
Even when I read that you did the skipt shift eliminator through the shifter hole, I was thinking "man thats kinda far to reach through that hole.."
So did you flip things around and get it all working???
Justin
#19
no, not yet.
I wont be able to crawl under there until this weekend. Its not a DD so no big deal.
I've got the Bassani True dual system waiting in the garage, so ill kill two birds with one stone Saturday. And dont worry, I haven't screwed up an exhaust system yet!
I wont be able to crawl under there until this weekend. Its not a DD so no big deal.
I've got the Bassani True dual system waiting in the garage, so ill kill two birds with one stone Saturday. And dont worry, I haven't screwed up an exhaust system yet!