JuniorFD

UPDATE SEE POST #11 Fight Not Over 01/04/2013

A little late to get this out but in an attempt to create an "assault weapons" in reality all weapons ban, Senator John Cullerton is attempting to Pass amendments on house bills HB1263 and HB815 during the lame-duck session of the IL General Assembly

Read and Press your reps. For those law abiding gun owners who are following these events and doing your part thank you. For those who were unaware, hopefully this enlightens some of you to act. And for those who oppose all of this I ask that you please do not turn this into a thread war, it was intended to only inform those who take care and pride in there 2nd Amendment rights in Illinois

Thank you
Adam aka Jr aka 02WS6Bird

EDIT:
THANK YOU but the fight isn't over see starting post #11

JuniorFD

HB815 Link see senate amendment (piggybacked to nuclear materials bill)

HB1263 Link Senate amendment 5-6 amended to Short Description: CD CORR-SEX OFF-MINOR VICTIM

TurboJoe@Straightline

.....civil war..... sad just sad.

simple

iTrader: (8)

I just came in here to post this very information.

Fight it fellas.

Lame duck session...they are coming for the guns.
Registration of Semi automatic rifles, shotguns, handguns and "large capacity ammunition feeding devices"

Both Illinois HB1263 (banning various firearms) and HB815 (regulating the bejesus out of magazines and shooting ranges) have passed out of a Public Health hearing (I swear) by a vote of 6 – 3. Before passing HB1263, the Committee added a sixth amendment. According to its dictates, firearms specified in the bill (e.g. a semi-automatic rifle such as the ones shown above only with longer barrels) must be registered with the Illinois State Police within 240 days of the bill’s passage, at $10 per gun ($15 for a .50). If the owner sells an “assault rifle” to an out-of-state buyer, the former owner must provide the State Police with the buyer’s name and address. Question: what does ANY of this have to do with preventing crime?
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...-of-committee/

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-...-bill-1263.pdf

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-...endment-1-.pdf

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/full...06&GA=97&Sessi onId=84&DocTypeId=HB&LegID=57242&DocNum=1263&GAID= 11&Session

Here is the link on how to email and contact your reps....
http://www.congress.org/congressorg/...046526&type=ML
Fill it out and it will send it off to all your reps automatically.

JuniorFD

They have since amended to a Crime Victims Rights- essentially a Mental Health bill
HB1237 - appears as Amendment to FOID act involving mental health restriction to obtain FOID. Upon reading does appear as neutral.

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/full...ID=11&Session=
See senate amendment 6 primarily it looks like


HB815 and HB1263 have since added another amendment to each document. I will do my best to keep you posted without overwhelming. Senate scheduled session 10am House not scheduled

JuniorFD

Amendments running later send it witness slips.

Fill in all information. If N/A just put NA they don't like symbols
Represent I usually put self or NA

Oppose and record of appearance only

Similar response as a NO vote from supporting citizens may help sway vote

Witness slip submission for HB1263 and HB815

Double check to make sure you selec OPPOSE there have been issues, email confirmation is best



Live Audio Up
As I said there is a lot of other things going on delaying these bills presentation so feel free to check in and listen

File your witness slips!

senicalj4579

iTrader: (41)

Just to add to this you guys...this is not just in your state that they want to do this. They want to do it every state eventually. I agree with TurboJoe...its coming.

JuniorFD

NRA lobbyist Todd Vandermyde says thereere is a great presence for witness slip oppositions. "Please keep the opponent witness slips coming"

They take minutes to fill out both

Oppose HB1263 and HB815


Todd Vandermyde - 13:06 1/03/13 1:06PM

"As reported by capitolfax on their blog from the senate dems. . .


It is clear that we will need bipartisan support in order to take floor votes on gun safety and marriage equality this week. We will take some time to work on these important issues to advance them in the near future.

The executive committee has been delayed, but we still intend to hold a hearing on marriage equality shortly.



Pour the coal to it boys and girls, pour the coal to it.. . ."


I know there's a great deal of you guys who are gun owners. Thank you all

JuniorFD

Capitolfax

http://capitolfax.com/2013/01/03/thi...-260/#comments

* 1:19 pm - Sun-Times

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Gun-rights supporters estimated that the legislation banning military-styled guns and the ammunition that feeds them is perhaps three or four votes shy of the necessary 30-vote threshold to pass either one, despite a heavy lobbying push from Mayor Rahm Emanuel and Gov. Pat Quinn.

But state Sen. Dan Kotowski (D-Park Ridge), chief Senate sponsor of the ammunition bill, told the Chicago Sun-Times that Schoenberg’s absence, as well as the absence of state Sen. James Meeks (D-Chicago), left him short of the support he needed to pass the ammunition bill on the Senate floor.


Quad City times report still awaiting official word but this appears to be potentially the case

EDIT: According to Senator Dave Syverson:
Thank you everyone for making your calls on the gun ban legislation. With your help it looks like the Bill will NOT be called today which means cannot come up again until Spring session starting in February.

senicalj4579

iTrader: (41)

Good job! Thanks to all the phone calls some of the gun grabbers voted no. Remember, this isnt just about your state. I hope you realize this is about the whole countries rights and I hope you fight just as hard for another state just as you did yours.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2m8IY...ayer_embedded#!

JuniorFD

***NOTICE- Urgent Please Read and Act Now***

So much for the win!
Guys Gals Gun Owners and anti- Chicago Leftists Please!

Report Today from Todd Vandermyde the Illinois NRA Lobbyist


"House staff has called to let us know that the Governor and Chicago Mayor will attempt a gun and magazine ban when the House reconvenes for the lame duck session.

They will reconvene on Sunday at 5pm

Go get 'em. . . "

This is absolutely insane that had it fail in the Senate as the bill sponsors claimed that they just. Didn't have the numbers by a small margin due to either absentees and lack of bipartisan Support. It appears that there will be new ban bills introduced.



As before wil keep you posted, keep this TTT

JuniorFD

This is a last stitch effort to pass a bill from the people YOU voted out! Call your Representative's local and Springfield office. Do it today, then fill up their machines tomorrow if no one's answering their phones on Saturday, then on Sunday as they should be open. The House comes into session at 5:00 p.m. Sunday.

Tell them you oppose ANY bills pushed by Chicago Reps or any Reps until new session is sworn in and this Lame-Duck session is over those including any Gun Weapon or Magazine Legislation

Light up the Speaker's offices too. Here's a Link to the Speakers contact info with Fax lines . His Springfield office number in the Capitol is (217) 782-5350. His office in Chicago is (773) 581-8000. Start the calls now.

Call the Governor: Springfield: (217) 782-0244, Chicago: (312) 814-2121

.Office of Mayor Rahm Emanuel: (312) 744-3300 (a receptionist answers)

look up your rep Here

Simple response for email or call

"Dear _________,
I am a responsible and law-abiding voter and gun owner of Illinois. I respectfully ask that you Please oppose any gun or magazine ban, legislation or registration schemes that may come before the lame duck session of the House.

Thank you for your support.
Name
Location, IL
contact info if you see fit"

Or the alternative shared from another supporter

"Dear Representative,

It has come to my attention that Governor Quinn and Mayor Emanuel are planning to ram through a gun ban bill and magazine restriction when the House re-convenes on Sunday. As we know, Senate President Cullerton attempted to do the same earlier this week and did not have the necessary pre-counted votes to even propose that it be brought to the floor of the senate for a vote. In addition, the amendments destroyed valid bills that were already necessary prior to their modification. I have the following reservations about any such piece of legislation and urge you to consider the unintended consequences of any weapons restriction/ban:

-It will be considered during a “lame duck” session, by some legislators who will no longer be in office and hence will no longer be accountable to the public.
-Is this truly the highest priority item on the senate’s agenda?
-Are Governor Quinn and Mayor Emanuel aware that studies of the Clinton-era national assault weapons ban show that such laws have no effect on crime?
-Any such ban will be, at best, of dubious constitutionality. The recent Supreme Court decisions Heller and McDonald have established that the 2nd Amendment is an individual right guaranteed by the United States Constitution, and that right extends to the individual states. Language in Heller refers to arms in common use. These are the very arms that these pieces of legislation would affect, as ~50% of rifles and 75-80% of handguns owned by the residents of the state of Illinois would be banned.
-Not only will these pieces of legislation be a waste of tax-payer’s money as they would be ruled unconstitutional by the SCOTUS, but they would violate citizens’ second amendment rights.
-Confiscation of banned weapons would be a government taking, and require compensation for the seized weapons. How will this be funded? This state can’t pay it’s bills now. Where will the General Assembly find the hundreds of millions of dollars for compensation, and to pay for the thousands upon thousands of Illinois State Police manpower hours required for this undertaking? Who will perform the other law enforcement tasks of the Illinois State Police while they are devoting their manpower to gun confiscation? How will “higher-capacity” magazines be registered and serialized?
-Are the Mayor and Governor counting on the blizzard of filings in Federal Court immediately on passage? Requests for injunctive relief, filings for violations of the 2nd, 4th, and 5th Amendments, filings for deprivation of civil rights under color of law. These are just a few of the results of such a piece of legislation that would cost Illinois millions of dollars that it simply does not have.

I urge you to OPPOSE Any proposed bill, as well as any further efforts to restrict the rights of the armed citizens of Illinois.

Sincerely yours,"

JuniorFD

From: http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index...29#entry378869

They Failed in the Senate -
Now Gov. Quinn & Chicago Mayor Emanuel
Will Attempt to Push Firearm Ban
Through the IL House of Reps.

Senate sponsors could not find the votes for HB815 and HB1263 before recessing for the weekend. However, that has not stopped Gov. Quinn and Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel from trying to pass a Chicago-style gun ban during the lame duck session.
The House will reconvene Sunday evening at 5 pm. and we expect a strong push to pass the gun ban and get it back to the Senate for vote before the deadline on Wed., Jan. 9.
The bills will include banning most semi-auto handguns, rifles, and shotguns, plus restrictions on public shooting ranges that will close most if not all ranges in Illinois.
What Can You Do To Stop This Assault On Your Rights?

Keep the Phone Lines Hot!

Please call your State Representative's Springfield and district offices over the weekend and urge them to oppose these outrageous attempts to infringe on our Second Amendment rights.

We do not know which bill numbers they will use, but another alert will be sent as soon as we know and you will be asked to file a witness slip to voice your opposition in the committee hearing.


To find out who your State Representative is call
217-782-2000 or go to the NRA's CapWiz website
http://www.capwiz.com/nra/state/main...tion=chgaddr#0

CALL
Mayor Emanuel: (312) 744-3300
Gov. Quinn: S'field: (217) 782-0244, Chicago: (312) 814-2121
Speaker of the House Madigan: Springfield: (217) 782-5350, Chicago773) 581-8000




From the IL. NRA REP: Tvandermyde

Rep Acevedo has filed an amendment to SB-2899 to gut it and make it a semi-auto ban.
The range language from the Senate versions has been removed.
But it is as bad as the Senate versions with some more twisted things in it.
Please don't make very detailed analisys on public posts here as we don't need to educate them about their own bill.

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This is for a STATE OF ILLINOIS gun ban - NOT a federal gun ban. Call / e-mail your state House Representatives and State Senators and POLITELY urge them to oppose any new gun restrictions in Illinois. Posting on their Facebook walls would be good too.

Lookup your elected officials HERE:
http://www.capwiz.com/nra/state/main...ew=myofficials

Remember - we're not contacting Mark Kirk or Dick Durbin - this is a STATE of ILLINOIS ban we're looking at. We don't want a CA, NY or NJ type ban on our fundamental rights.

JuniorFD

I've been unable to log in or register to Seat Stays up and wanted to share this video. If someone could please help me out that would be great. Seatstaysup/register gives me a blank screen not sure why...

Please check it out supporter or not

youtu.be/BSnrQHaUn9g

This is national not just for IL

litle88

iTrader: (20)

Just signed up to oppose!

JuniorFD

Bills and amendments being brought forth by the house today....

House Committee(s)



Judiciary 1 - Civil Law Committee - 1/6/2014 @ 2:00 PM

House Committee Amendment 1 to SB2899 - Firearm Ban - Oppose



Executive Committee - 1/6/2014 @ 4:00 PM

House Committee Amendment 1 to SB3489 - Crim Pro State App Defender - Oppose


When Filing witness Slips as shown above we are opposing SB3489- HCA1
We are currently waiting for SB2899 to say SB2899-HCA1 (as of yet the amended has not been assigned to committee as a last stitch effort to avoid opposition witness slips etc to be entered) if filed to early it is shown as opposition only to the original bill not the amendment that has been recently added.

I will add links as they come up but feel free to navigate www.myilga.gov click on house, committee hearings, then executive committee to locate SB3489-HCA1 "OPPOSE"
Click civil law committee to view status of SB2899 which as stated we are waiting to see SB2899-HCA1 to oppose





Next

JuniorFD

Because we've made such a noise on sb2899 legislators are trying to ram through another amendment on top of the one already attached. According to lobbyists opposing original bills can not hurt.
OPPOSE

SB2899
witness Slip Link
SB3489
SB3489 HCA-1 witness slip


Not being brought up today as far as we no see below also same legislation in SB3489-HCA1

HB1237 - Crime Victim Rights Compliance (Mental Health)

Oppose

House Sponsor: Nekritz, Mayfield, Ford, Sacia, Lang, Golar
Senate Sponsor: Muņoz, Millner, Noland, Raoul, Link, Dillard, Hunter, Collins (Jacqueline)
Status: House Concurrence - Senate Floor Amendment 6


Senate Floor Amendment 6

Replaces everything after the enacting clause. Amends the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act. Establishes procedures by which an active law enforcement officer employed by a unit of government, who is denied, revoked, or has his or her Firearm Owner's Identification Card seized because the officer had been a patient in a mental institution within the past 5 years may apply to the Director of State Police requesting relief if the officer did not act in a manner threatening to the officer, another person, or the public as determined by the treating clinical psychologist or physician, and as a result of his or her work is referred by the employer for or voluntarily seeks mental health evaluation or treatment by a licensed clinical psychologist, psychiatrist, or qualified examiner. Amends the Criminal Code of 2012 to make conforming changes. Effective June 1, 2013. This does not give a citizen the same privileges if they sought out any counseling of any type including alcohol, marriage counseling, even job interviews requiring psychiatric evaluation are subject etc. the wording was changed from mental health hospital to institution which can be determined as a doctors office or clinic. The appeals process to regain a citizens FOID would be nearly impossible and only to be limited by the Department of Police to determine if they feel you could even qualify to get it back also opening up your medical records on mental health to be subject to the government without your approval from what sounds like within the last 5 years.

JuniorFD

Todd Vandermyde at 2:10pm
"they r not going to call it"

As for SB2899-

Chair just said that they're gonna table SB2899. WOW! There's A LOT of opposition sitting in the gallery. The guy with the drawl (says his name is Nathan Moyer from Decatur...head of some militia...eek, I dunno) pointed directly at the Chair and called Illinois a tyrannical government. Still watching, some woman said that she's a teacher and that "these laws" are useless and won't stop anything.
Video from Today's adjourning
. Onto SB3489 at 4:00

JuniorFD

PHONE CALL FROM TODD, CALL OFF THE DOGS ON THE TWO FOID BILLS 3489 AND 1237. AN AGREEMENT HAS BEEN REACHED. A BILL WILL BE INTRODUCED IN THE SPRING THAT IS GOOD FOR BOTH SIDES.

TODD SAYS TAKE THE REST OF THE AFTERNOON OFF, HAVE A COLD SOMETHING FOR HIM!!

GREAT JOB GUYS!!
Consider it a win sounds like thank you all for any support and thanks mods for allowing this to be posted its safe to say ill leave it at that and get back to car discussion thank you all again

litle88

iTrader: (20)

Just saw the news!
Awesome, maybe the magazine prices and the AR15 prices will go down!