Another Hall's deal!!!
12-16-2008, 05:09 PM
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well black was the second most popular color option to red......but it wasn't me. she's been asleep since the 1st of Nov. with the occasional nudging from me to try to get some, but she just brushes me off and says she's too tired and cold
12-16-2008, 05:11 PM
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I'm with Terry on this one. From what I've researched, the STS kit isn't that terrible for stock bottom end cars. The boost delivery is supposed to be relatively quick, albeit not as fast as front mounting the turbos, but its still pressurized air that is being forced back to the motor not simply an intake at the *** end of the car. An intake deliberatly placed back there would def. create a lag in throttle response but being forced back I doubt that the lag would be all that terrible especially with the small turbos that are included with the kit. Now with a full motor build with high boost applications and lower compression ratios then the STS kit might see some lag as the low end power is lessened due to the CR. Rant over, can you guys tell I've been writing research papers all week for my masters, I wrote all proper and stuff I think I'm gonna print this off and hang it on the fridge. 
12-16-2008, 05:14 PM
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hey **** factory, it wasn't about stock bottom end it was about the fact that they were bitchin about boost delivery. i was sayin that in low boost applications (i.e. stock bottom end) it would perform ok for most people. learn to read you *****!
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12-16-2008, 05:34 PM
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Quit going to them DAMN strip bars, and put that money into that car.
12-16-2008, 05:55 PM
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Twice now its been said but no real reason why
Thank you needed some support!
This is just like when Ringo tried to write a song, Paul M. " Good job Ringo were gonna put it right here on the refigerator" (snickers to self) Octopusses what?
I remember reading that article, I like that it looks so beat up. There are clubs of guys who put brand new paint on their vehicles but it looks " distressed" Not my thing but Cool for others.
I love the look of the inline sixxer classic. You ever see one of those hanging from a tree?
HA HA HA lol Yeah mines gotta headache! (Probably all the paint fumes)
True, but Vortech will tell you you can use stock all day long with their kit and no problems, bolt on 8 hours all included down to the wire ties.
I think it depends what it is your looking for, all out race car probly not the best choice.
**** Factory, Can i use that? I can't stop laughing
Damn i can't say much then either, but it has been on a dyno. I love strip clubs too. More than I should really. I think I got a skin irritation from the seats at one, but ther's no shortage of pennicilin so I'm still going. LOL LOL LOL
I'm with Terry on this one. From what I've researched, the STS kit isn't that terrible for stock bottom end cars. The boost delivery is supposed to be relatively quick, albeit not as fast as front mounting the turbos, but its still pressurized air that is being forced back to the motor not simply an intake at the *** end of the car. An intake deliberatly placed back there would def. create a lag in throttle response but being forced back I doubt that the lag would be all that terrible especially with the small turbos that are included with the kit. Now with a full motor build with high boost applications and lower compression ratios then the STS kit might see some lag as the low end power is lessened due to the CR. Rant over, can you guys tell I've been writing research papers all week for my masters, I wrote all proper and stuff I think I'm gonna print this off and hang it on the fridge.
This is just like when Ringo tried to write a song, Paul M. " Good job Ringo were gonna put it right here on the refigerator" (snickers to self) Octopusses what?
http://www.hotrod.com/featuredvehicl...w2w/index.html
Not "crazy" horsepower, but ~1200 wheel horsepower in a street car isn't bad.
Not "crazy" horsepower, but ~1200 wheel horsepower in a street car isn't bad.
I love the look of the inline sixxer classic. You ever see one of those hanging from a tree?
I think it depends what it is your looking for, all out race car probly not the best choice.
12-16-2008, 08:05 PM
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I just bought myself a nice PT-78HPS and 83 lb/hr siemens injectors for my christmas present
Nick,
I plan on working on the turbo setup this weekend. I will have the turbo back to you when I get mine or I finish the cross over. oh and I will have the cash together next pay check (24th) for that intercooler. Thanks again man I really do appriciate it
now go get your piece together
Nick,
I plan on working on the turbo setup this weekend. I will have the turbo back to you when I get mine or I finish the cross over. oh and I will have the cash together next pay check (24th) for that intercooler. Thanks again man I really do appriciate it
now go get your piece together
12-16-2008, 08:46 PM
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**** factory, that's genius.
STS kits aren't junk, but they're definitely not optimal. Heat is lost from the exhaust (turbos, unlike everything else under your hood, LIKE heat, or, better put, the velocity that comes with that heat), lots of pipe to compress, most of which does a poor job of heat dissipation vs. an intercooler (so you're compressing lots of volume, but you aren't making optimal use of that volume for cooling). Low turbo = easy damage. Loss of ground clearance, yada yada...
Not saying you can't do it, it's just not really the best mouse trap, assuming a front mount kit is possible.
STS kits aren't junk, but they're definitely not optimal. Heat is lost from the exhaust (turbos, unlike everything else under your hood, LIKE heat, or, better put, the velocity that comes with that heat), lots of pipe to compress, most of which does a poor job of heat dissipation vs. an intercooler (so you're compressing lots of volume, but you aren't making optimal use of that volume for cooling). Low turbo = easy damage. Loss of ground clearance, yada yada...
Not saying you can't do it, it's just not really the best mouse trap, assuming a front mount kit is possible.
12-16-2008, 08:49 PM
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Scott Hewitt, has an STS NBM SS.....car was built by EPP and is fing bad!!
http://s81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...MOV00004-1.flv
http://s81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...MOV00004-1.flv
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12-16-2008, 09:15 PM
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**** factory, that's genius.
STS kits aren't junk, but they're definitely not optimal. Heat is lost from the exhaust (turbos, unlike everything else under your hood, LIKE heat, or, better put, the velocity that comes with that heat), lots of pipe to compress, most of which does a poor job of heat dissipation vs. an intercooler (so you're compressing lots of volume, but you aren't making optimal use of that volume for cooling). Low turbo = easy damage. Loss of ground clearance, yada yada...
Not saying you can't do it, it's just not really the best mouse trap, assuming a front mount kit is possible.
STS kits aren't junk, but they're definitely not optimal. Heat is lost from the exhaust (turbos, unlike everything else under your hood, LIKE heat, or, better put, the velocity that comes with that heat), lots of pipe to compress, most of which does a poor job of heat dissipation vs. an intercooler (so you're compressing lots of volume, but you aren't making optimal use of that volume for cooling). Low turbo = easy damage. Loss of ground clearance, yada yada...
Not saying you can't do it, it's just not really the best mouse trap, assuming a front mount kit is possible.
12-16-2008, 09:30 PM
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Hong Kong Phooey's car is badass, but the same parts would make more power, more efficiently if the turbo was on the right end of the car.
I'd still drive it though.
12-16-2008, 09:47 PM
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Yeah, but that can happen with an underhood turbo too. The STS should be just as safe, if the lines are laid out well.
Hong Kong Phooey's car is badass, but the same parts would make more power, more efficiently if the turbo was on the right end of the car. I'd still drive it though.
Hong Kong Phooey's car is badass, but the same parts would make more power, more efficiently if the turbo was on the right end of the car.
I'd still drive it though. 
12-17-2008, 06:11 AM
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sts kits are ok for the guy that wants to make 450 to 500 horse but best bet is a front mount kit some nice kits out there that let you keep your ac KY turbo is doing a keep the ac kit for the f bodys im pretty sure if you talk to josh he can hook up a vette as well.
whats wrong with strip bars haha least he is looking at girls and not going to the thunder from down under male revue
**** factory that's funny stuff haha
Zack i got your voise mail i will call ya back today some time.
whats wrong with strip bars haha least he is looking at girls and not going to the thunder from down under male revue
**** factory that's funny stuff haha
Zack i got your voise mail i will call ya back today some time.
12-17-2008, 06:13 AM
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Scott Hewitt, has an STS NBM SS.....car was built by EPP and is fing bad!!
http://s81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...MOV00004-1.flv
http://s81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...MOV00004-1.flv
12-17-2008, 07:33 AM
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Does JPH really own a cockfactory?
As fas as STS, when modified they are bad ***. There is a C5 full weight coupe, complete street car, 4L80E, 402Ls2, etc that runs 8.8 at 158. They can be badass when done right. the front mount kits seem better overall to me too though.
As fas as STS, when modified they are bad ***. There is a C5 full weight coupe, complete street car, 4L80E, 402Ls2, etc that runs 8.8 at 158. They can be badass when done right. the front mount kits seem better overall to me too though.
12-17-2008, 09:52 AM
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Scott Hewitt, has an STS NBM SS.....car was built by EPP and is fing bad!!
http://s81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...MOV00004-1.flv
http://s81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...MOV00004-1.flv
SDB- yes jph has a cockfactory but it is a small **** factory...
12-17-2008, 11:21 AM
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excerpt: twin cities.com
Winona school bus catches fire after hitting deer
Associated Press
Article Last Updated: 12/16/2008 11:27:32 AM CST
WINONA, Minn. — Witnesses say a school bus carrying about two dozen Winona Middle School basketball players was on fire Friday evening as it drove toward a middle school, where it burst into flames in the parking lot.
No one was hurt.
Bob Koch of Minnesota City Bus Service, which owns the bus, says the driver hit a deer and didn't stop. The animal got caught under the bus and may have broken an oil line.
Winona firefighter John Yackel says witnesses reported seeing the bus "burning" while traveling down the road toward the middle school.
However, Koch says the driver didn't know there was a problem until he was about a block from the school. He says he pulled into the parking lot and immediately evacuated the bus.
A coach ran inside to grab fire extinguishers while others called 911. Assistant Fire Chief Jim Multhaup says the bus was fully engulfed when firefighters arrived.
Koch says no one should be blamed for the "freak accident."
Wow!!!