Difference between Marines and Army
10-31-2008, 03:13 PM
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It really depends on your perspective. I am now a Reservist, and it already bothers me how some of the guys call each other by their first name, and this is O-5's and E's! I'm sure I'll just get used to it, but I like the discipline and structure of how its "supposed" to be.
10-31-2008, 08:59 PM
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Agreed 100%, the problem now is that some higher leadership such as field grade and above will come down on you as an NCO or company grade officer for enforcing discipline standards and you may find yourself in the hot seat for performing corrective action or you **** a soldier off and they file a BS EO or some other complaint on you and bam right off the bat you are moved out of your unit no questions asked. A simple accusation can **** your career up now.
I know what you are saying though especially when I was on the trail. I think at this point in my career most officers will leave me alone when it comes to soldiering.
10-31-2008, 09:19 PM
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IG complaints are extremely useful but some of the **** guys will try to call IG about are straight up BS and i cant even imagine the **** you guys on the trail have to deal with 
. I had a guys wife say she was going to call IG because we kept her hubby who was on extra duty until 2300 one night because they werent waxing the floor to the CSM's standards so they had to do it twice. Dude was an E4 promotable and pissed hot for weed and the battalion cdr took it easy on him because he was squared away at work and he had some wacky excuse too and all she did was took his promotable status from him and put him on exta duty, no rank reuduction or pay taken. If you ask me he got off easy, and then his wifes got the nerve to threaten to call IG because he worked until 2300.
11-02-2008, 03:23 AM
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A buddy of mine saluted a specialist because of the gold insignia they wear on thier collar. I got a good laugh out of it because it wasn't me and after all, I had saluted a Chief...
11-02-2008, 06:19 AM
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this is where being in an infantry unit is beneficial. you work around corpsman so you get a chance to learn how their structure is, and even better if you deploy to an army base. i've gotten the chance to learn everyone but the AF.
the navy confuses the **** out of me still, but that's due to the fact that they have a zillion billets. one once told me if you don't know just call them petty officer (unless chief obviously). the army is easy, it's almost identical to the Marines, just a few changes here and there.
You'll get a lot more respect if you come up and you can actually address them by their rank. I've had some thank me for taking the time to learn this ****.
and beating the **** out of your juniors shows a lot about how your maturity and professionalism levels are sitting at. lead by example?
the navy confuses the **** out of me still, but that's due to the fact that they have a zillion billets. one once told me if you don't know just call them petty officer (unless chief obviously). the army is easy, it's almost identical to the Marines, just a few changes here and there.
You'll get a lot more respect if you come up and you can actually address them by their rank. I've had some thank me for taking the time to learn this ****.
and beating the **** out of your juniors shows a lot about how your maturity and professionalism levels are sitting at. lead by example?
11-18-2008, 05:52 AM
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So last weekend I was drilling at Ft. Devens MA and right next to where we were staying is a USMC reserve center and they were also drilling that weekend. It was night and I was walking through the parking lot back to my place and I saw a young Marine (E3 or E4) standing on the sidewalk and he started to ask me a question about if I saw another Marine walking through the parking lot. As I approached and he could see my shirt he took notice of my rank and immediatley locked himself up and stayed like that until our converstaion was finished and he addressed me properly after every sentence.
I was uttlerly amazed because even in the Army now the younger soldiers tend to not feel like they have to stand at attention for officers or at parade rest for NCO's and they do not always address as sir or sergeant. When I was a private would never dare not stand at attention or parade rest when speaking to my superiors or not address them properly. Today it is different which is strange because its not like Ive been in 20 years or something. I also had a fresh out of basic private stand right next to me that weekend with his hands in his pockets and I had to correct him, you would think since he just got done basic he would know better especially when a superior is right next to him. I dont know what the hell they are teaching them in basic today
Anyway it was nice to see that there still is some discipline out there.
I was uttlerly amazed because even in the Army now the younger soldiers tend to not feel like they have to stand at attention for officers or at parade rest for NCO's and they do not always address as sir or sergeant. When I was a private would never dare not stand at attention or parade rest when speaking to my superiors or not address them properly. Today it is different which is strange because its not like Ive been in 20 years or something. I also had a fresh out of basic private stand right next to me that weekend with his hands in his pockets and I had to correct him, you would think since he just got done basic he would know better especially when a superior is right next to him. I dont know what the hell they are teaching them in basic today
Anyway it was nice to see that there still is some discipline out there.
11-20-2008, 11:30 AM
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Maybe he over anticipated your salute to him and returned it too early or something.
11-20-2008, 05:30 PM
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Those ******* new navy e-uniforms **** me off, e1 and e2 get rank insignia that looks like a 2nd lieutenant. My vision aint that great either so i need all the help i can get
11-20-2008, 10:12 PM
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For the first few days I was at Fort Dix training for my IA as an E4 I was saluted constantly, and called colonel on a couple of occasions (deploying Army reservist and NG guys). I actually felt pretty stupid when I had to let them know I was a PO3.
It was nice learning the different rank structure of the Army when I was there, and when we were deployed with the Alabama 226 ASG in Al asad, and I even learned the Air Force structure while I was there. I work with Marines constantly, so it comes natural. I always preach to my younger guys about learning the different rank structures. I am big on courtesy, and I don't want to be the dumbass walking by the senior enlisted, or O of the other service and saying "hey buddy".
Even knowing them, it is still pretty hard to pick out a MC top until I am about 5-10' away. lol
11-21-2008, 12:20 AM
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Already been said but if a senior NCO comes into the room we stand up, parade rest, etc etc, commander comes in room gets called to attention, same when he leaves. Otherwise I'd say we're pretty lax in our shop with rank and what not. Granted the younger ranking guys don't always call us sgt so and so, repeatedly since we're talking back and forth most of the day, but they won't hesitate with the yes sir or no sir when it's more than just casual conversation. Marines definitely have it right with respect in the rank structures. I wish the AF were a bit more hard nosed about it. I'd never think to call an officer by their first name, or anyone higher ranked than me period. I should be more apt to do it with same and lower ranked individuals than I am now, but that's just kinda my thing. Just my 0.02, more of a ramble than anything 
