kidreno_21

Mike - sounds like you will likely be going to an engineer unit. Engineers, inmy experience with them, are notorious for combatives training. I went through Sapper Leader Course in March 2006, and they put us through 40 hours of combatives and certified us as level I instructors. Their combatives training was more in depth and difficult than the combatives training I went through in Ranger school and even when the L.I.N.E. instructor came to my BCT.

When you get to your unit let your section leader know that you are interested in attending a combatives course, but be prepared to get shot down. These courses are intended for (generally) leaders, E5 and above. Personnaly, as a commander, I wouldn't send a junior Soldier, I'd send a high speed, proven NCO, but that is how many of us see it.

Also, depending on where you get stationed, there may likely be a martial arts club or classes on your post. You may have to pay for these classes, or they may be free, it depends.

Good luck and have fun in basic.

Mightymike2000ss

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thanks man for the input, its worth a try. i just currently started doing yoga for proper stretching hopefully they will allow me to do combatives further down the road if not right off the back...

96ta

all incoming soldiers go through MAC-P level 1 now but they dont get certified yet.

96ta

most people dont use line because you cant scale the force you use in training. For example in tan belt of MCMAP they teach you the eye gouge. how do you properly show someone the eye gouge when you cant teach it to someone but only once before you cant use them to train. secondly MAC-P starts off with ground fighting because it is the easiest to teach and learn. as you go on and get certified through the other levels they teach you more things. I can honestly say that since i help out teaching with my unit combatives instructors i have learned alot of stuff. you guys have to remember the army does the crawl, walk, run teaching process so once you get through the "boring" stuff first.

96ta

look at the navy's boxing program its a competition. Look at russian army's combatives sambo its a competition. Look at tae kwon do in Korea, its a competition. they use it as a competition because people want to be the best. how do you become the best? you know more about it than your opponent. whats the purpose of the combatives program for the army? to give everyone a basic understanding of the combatives program.

T61M^3

MACP is a great learing tool. I just finished Level 3 @ Benning and have never been so sore in my life, despite years with the 101st. Levels 1 & 2 are kinda boring, but 3 is where it gets interesting.

Good instructors will make you apply combatives (EPW? TTP/TCP duty?, QRF for a friendly village?) with scenarios you might end up in.

01turdbird

I just think that the Army would be better of having soldiers spend more time at the range and less in the combatives gym. Not that knowing how to handle your self in h2h is a bad idea it is just some units I have seen waste a little to much time with it. I also dont think the Army's program is the right one for actual combat atleast the way it is taught. My .02