Saluting out of uniform
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Saluting out of uniform
Just some info I ran across, FYI:
Subject: New Law on Saluting the Flag
WASHINGTON, D.C. - U.S. Senator Jim Inhofe (R-Oklahoma) today praised the
passage by unanimous consent of his bill (S.1877) clarifying U.S. law to
allow veterans and service members not in uniform to salute the flag.
Current law (US Code Title 4, Chapter 1) states that veterans and service
members not in uniform should place their hand over their heart without
clarifying whether they can or should salute the flag.
"The salute is a form of honor and respect, representing pride in one's
military service," Senator Inhofe said. "Veterans and service members
continue representing the military services even when not in uniform.
Unfortunately, current U.S. law leaves confusion as to whether veterans and
service members out of uniform can or should salute the flag. My legislation
will clarify this regulation, allowing veterans and servicemen alike to
salute the flag, whether they are in uniform or not. I look forward to
seeing those who have served saluting proudly at baseball games, parades,
and formal events. I believe this is an appropriate way to honor and
recognize the 25 million veterans in the United States who have served in
the military and remain as role models to others citizens. Those who are
currently serving or have served in the military have earned this right, and
their recognition will be an inspiration to others."
This bill was passed July 25, 2007. Let your veteran friends know about the
passage of this bill.
Subject: New Law on Saluting the Flag
WASHINGTON, D.C. - U.S. Senator Jim Inhofe (R-Oklahoma) today praised the
passage by unanimous consent of his bill (S.1877) clarifying U.S. law to
allow veterans and service members not in uniform to salute the flag.
Current law (US Code Title 4, Chapter 1) states that veterans and service
members not in uniform should place their hand over their heart without
clarifying whether they can or should salute the flag.
"The salute is a form of honor and respect, representing pride in one's
military service," Senator Inhofe said. "Veterans and service members
continue representing the military services even when not in uniform.
Unfortunately, current U.S. law leaves confusion as to whether veterans and
service members out of uniform can or should salute the flag. My legislation
will clarify this regulation, allowing veterans and servicemen alike to
salute the flag, whether they are in uniform or not. I look forward to
seeing those who have served saluting proudly at baseball games, parades,
and formal events. I believe this is an appropriate way to honor and
recognize the 25 million veterans in the United States who have served in
the military and remain as role models to others citizens. Those who are
currently serving or have served in the military have earned this right, and
their recognition will be an inspiration to others."
This bill was passed July 25, 2007. Let your veteran friends know about the
passage of this bill.
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Hmm...when not in uniform I will still put my hand over my heart. Seems pretty silly to me to be saluting when in civies. What if your in civies without a cover? Still salute?
I think this applies more to the vets that wear a polo shirt with their VFW lodge on it and a garrison cap with medals on it.
I think this applies more to the vets that wear a polo shirt with their VFW lodge on it and a garrison cap with medals on it.
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Originally Posted by StoleIt
Hmm...when not in uniform I will still put my hand over my heart. Seems pretty silly to me to be saluting when in civies. What if your in civies without a cover? Still salute?
I think this applies more to the vets that wear a polo shirt with their VFW lodge on it and a garrison cap with medals on it.
I think this applies more to the vets that wear a polo shirt with their VFW lodge on it and a garrison cap with medals on it.
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Originally Posted by StoleIt
Hmm...when not in uniform I will still put my hand over my heart. Seems pretty silly to me to be saluting when in civies. What if your in civies without a cover? Still salute?
I think this applies more to the vets that wear a polo shirt with their VFW lodge on it and a garrison cap with medals on it.
I think this applies more to the vets that wear a polo shirt with their VFW lodge on it and a garrison cap with medals on it.
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I don't need a law to tell me that it's okay to salute the flag or anything else. I'll do what I feel compelled to do. What are they going to do, arrest me for an unauthorized show of patriotism? The whole thing is rediculous.
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I'm with pegasus on this one why the hell do you need a law saying i can salute. If i want to i will if i dont want to i wont. I dont need to salute for people to know i'm a marine its pretty obvious if you look at me.
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The law is not saying you "will" salute while not in uniform its saying you can. Personally I think its kind of cool.
Brad 8266 - so you never salute the flag to render proper respect ever? Wow, way to set the example for others to see, specially civilians. If a saw someone just walking around and not giving a **** during the National Anthem (1700) I'd rip there ***.
Brad 8266 - so you never salute the flag to render proper respect ever? Wow, way to set the example for others to see, specially civilians. If a saw someone just walking around and not giving a **** during the National Anthem (1700) I'd rip there ***.
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Originally Posted by 99WS7
The law is not saying you "will" salute while not in uniform its saying you can. Personally I think its kind of cool.
Brad 8266 - so you never salute the flag to render proper respect ever? Wow, way to set the example for others to see, specially civilians. If a saw someone just walking around and not giving a **** during the National Anthem (1700) I'd rip there ***.
Brad 8266 - so you never salute the flag to render proper respect ever? Wow, way to set the example for others to see, specially civilians. If a saw someone just walking around and not giving a **** during the National Anthem (1700) I'd rip there ***.
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i dont know how you guys will take this but here goes:
as Marines we salute all officers, colors, and standards not cased, In uniform,right?. now in cavilian attire we dont salute officers, you may salute colors if you shall choose. no law needs to say you are allowed and not allowed.
no its only obvious im pretty patriotic about our country and if you knew me youd really see. but i do not go around saluting the flag in cavilian attire.
now, the national anthem. we were taught to stand at POA in civilian attire.
but, some where along the line it was changed were you place your hand over your heart.
correct?
as Marines we salute all officers, colors, and standards not cased, In uniform,right?. now in cavilian attire we dont salute officers, you may salute colors if you shall choose. no law needs to say you are allowed and not allowed.
no its only obvious im pretty patriotic about our country and if you knew me youd really see. but i do not go around saluting the flag in cavilian attire.
now, the national anthem. we were taught to stand at POA in civilian attire.
but, some where along the line it was changed were you place your hand over your heart.
correct?
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Originally Posted by NightWindDriftr
You can salute without cover. The tip of your middle finger comes to the corner of your right eye. If you wear glasses, it comes to the rightmost point of the right lens.
Salute without cover OUTSIDE (say a baseball game or parade) doesn't make sense.
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Originally Posted by NightWindDriftr
In some no-hat no-salute areas, it is appropriate to stand at attention for the flag or national anthem.
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It's nice to know the law changed, but I will still stand at the position of attention. 40 years from now when I'm wearing my polo shirt and cap w/my medals from combat, then I'll salute in civies. And I know exactly what you mean by 1700 retreat. I always stop the ones running from the Company to the barracks at 1659. Don't hide, show your pride!
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Originally Posted by 99WS7
Brad 8266 - so you never salute the flag to render proper respect ever? Wow, way to set the example for others to see, specially civilians. If a saw someone just walking around and not giving a **** during the National Anthem (1700) I'd rip there ***.
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Originally Posted by Splitz
But, that is only "indoors", what if your outdoors?
Salute without cover OUTSIDE (say a baseball game or parade) doesn't make sense.
Salute without cover OUTSIDE (say a baseball game or parade) doesn't make sense.
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It seemed to me at least this law was more pointed toward those who are no longer in service. I know the law includes those still serving but it just feels like the main thought was going out to those who have left. It may sound funny but I ALWAYS feel awkward when I am at a ball game or wherever and they play the National Anthem. Most put thier hand over their heart and I want to slaute cause that is what I am used to.
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I was taught never to salute without a cover. I think this goes for the Marines and Sailors out there. The only time we salute in doors is when we are under arms and we leave our covers on. The Position of Attention when not in uniform is good enough for me.
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Originally Posted by Blacked Out
It seemed to me at least this law was more pointed toward those who are no longer in service. I know the law includes those still serving but it just feels like the main thought was going out to those who have left. It may sound funny but I ALWAYS feel awkward when I am at a ball game or wherever and they play the National Anthem. Most put thier hand over their heart and I want to slaute cause that is what I am used to.
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Originally Posted by gatman01
I was taught never to salute without a cover. I think this goes for the Marines and Sailors out there. The only time we salute in doors is when we are under arms and we leave our covers on. The Position of Attention when not in uniform is good enough for me.