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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 08:34 PM
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Being from Indiana, he must be referring to all those fast Indy cars with autos. LOL


Right...but nobody watches that Crap in the US.
As I said, I wasnt referring to that type of racing.
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 09:26 PM
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Right...but nobody watches that Crap in the US.
As I said, I wasnt referring to that type of racing.
I was being sarcastic, Indy cars have 6 speed manual transmissions, no clutch pedal though.
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 11:10 PM
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Right...but nobody watches that Crap in the US.
As I said, I wasnt referring to that type of racing.
I didn't do anything, say anything or curse anyone out. I get nervous when you post in my freads. Don't ban me
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 11:39 PM
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Definitely a nice car, wouldn't mind having one if I had the excess money.
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 02:28 AM
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actually, doesnt new pagani zonda now hold the record at 6:xx?
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 02:57 AM
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actually, doesnt new pagani zonda now hold the record at 6:xx?
That Pagani isn't a street car.
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 07:27 AM
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The Pagani Zonda R ran a 6:47 and it is a race car.
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 09:18 AM
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 11:06 AM
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they need a independent company to test these claims and with cars off the showroom floor!!!
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by LEO
The Pagani Zonda R ran a 6:47 and it is a race car.
there are only 2 classifications for these unofficial records: production car and race car. the pagani is a production car. they have no distinction for production race car, street car, etc.
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 07:15 PM
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If that 6 second Nova posted a few weeks back is a street car as everyone claims, then the Pagani easily passes as a street car.
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by unit213
What racing class are you referring to specifically? Tell Jeggy that autos win races. Maybe tell Billy Glidden that. What "fastest cars in the world" happen to be autos? Just curious.
Perhaps you're talking circle track stuff? If so, I'll bow out since turning is over rated.

I can appreciate the GTR for what it is and I'm sure it's a blast to drive. I'm just not a fan of the styling.
While I agree that just about every fastest/quickest car is a manual, you and I both know that they don't even need to make use of the clutch 99% of the time. Drag racing is the exception, and that's just off the line... with a two step in most cases...

You can call it a manual, because it is one, but not in the conventional sense that most people view the term.

But it doesn't really matter. So, eh...

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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Wnts2Go10O
there are only 2 classifications for these unofficial records: production car and race car. the pagani is a production car. they have no distinction for production race car, street car, etc.
Oh is that right? You may want to look at these lists, one specifies production vehicles and the other non-series/road vehicles. Guess which list the Zonda R is on.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordsch...test_lap_times
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 08:30 PM
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The Zonda R is only available with slicks.

On top of that little factor, it can not be registered as a road vehicle in the US, Germany, or most other European countries. If a car can't be registered as road legal in the country of the track it's tested on... guess what? it's not a street legal production car time.
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 08:36 PM
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I think you can make a difference between a street EXOTIC and a true street car.
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 09:32 PM
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it is still a very nice automatic car. But that means it sucks. Period.

ugly and fast with no clutch pedal... **** a lot of cars fit in that.

Let me know when they make it with a proper manual shift.
A clutch pedal isn't necessary these days, plus it's a pain in the leg to push in & out all the time. My G8 bangs gears like a manual trans in manual mode and has rev matched downshifts. I had a couple manual trans Camaros and it's so much easier to drive this car fast with full control of engine rpms.
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 10:16 PM
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Any car without a TRUE manual... Is just a fancy commuter car. Without the ability to control it... Its just AUTOMATIC
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And you must be old... Cause if its too much trouble to use your legs... You might wanna check into a old folks home.
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The shifter controls the trans and the engine rpms. The clutch just disengages it from the motor so you can shift gears. I don't see how having a clutch is better, my car does everything yours does. You must be old because this is new technology to replace your old way of thinking.

A manual trans is better for road racing because you can downshift going into the corners to slow the car down quicker along with the brakes and you can keep the rpms up through the corners to power out of them. An automatic is better for drag racing because you can launch harder and more consistently, plus it shifts faster and at the right rpm everytime. So I have the best of both worlds since my car does both things well where as yours doesn't.

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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by LegacyGTBiggie
Any car without a TRUE manual... Is just a fancy commuter car. Without the ability to control it... Its just AUTOMATIC
+1. Guys that drive autos can debate all they want, but deep down they know it's true.
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