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I can adjust the shift firmness on the fly, I do it with the throttle. If I want it to shift soft I give it less throttle, if I want to shift firm I give it more throttle. Evidently you guys can't grasp what I'm saying because you have a clutch pedal and not an automatic with a dedicated manual mode.
All I have to do is downshift and lay into the throttle if I want the tires to break loose. And since my car has rev matched downshifts, downshifting while cornering doesn't upset the car. With the traction control off I can do a wicked powerslide this way. 
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I fail to understand how the auto shifts any less firmly or quickly than the manual. the clutch pedal doesnt let you shift any harder or faster. If a manual had anything great to offer over an automatic then the supercars would all have a true manual. but they dont (most not all) it seems companies like ferrari lamborghini bugatti and so on have invested MILLIONS into research and development and decided to use the cluthless autos in most of their cars and im sure its safe to say that there is a damn good reason for that.
shazam watch this 150 MILLISECONDS i want to see you shift a "true" manual that fast on your own.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhDtFQU3ZFc
F1 ferrari transmission
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=resjtcK0-x0
shazam watch this 150 MILLISECONDS i want to see you shift a "true" manual that fast on your own.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhDtFQU3ZFc
F1 ferrari transmission
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=resjtcK0-x0
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I can adjust the shift firmness on the fly, I do it with the throttle. If I want it to shift soft I give it less throttle, if I want to shift firm I give it more throttle. Evidently you guys can't grasp what I'm saying because you have a clutch pedal and not an automatic with a dedicated manual mode.
You're the one that can't comprehend what I said, read it slowly so you understand. I can control how hard my car shifts with the throttle, which means I can do it on the fly without retuning the car. Light throttle makes it shift soft and heavy throttle make it shift harder, but it won't exceed the shift firmness I chose with my tuner, which is 25% firmer than stock. You guys with manual transmissions don't understand how an automatic with manual mode works, so you need to read up on it so I don't have to explain it's operation over and over again.
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LOL at a Subaru guy arguing about proper transmissions, without even owning a proper car.
I've had sticks, AWD's, 60's muscle cars and new V8 tip tronics..the paddles are glory if you live in the City, like to have bursts of redline fun but also like slamming it in Drive and just letting it do the work...on your way to work.
I've had sticks, AWD's, 60's muscle cars and new V8 tip tronics..the paddles are glory if you live in the City, like to have bursts of redline fun but also like slamming it in Drive and just letting it do the work...on your way to work.
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You're the one that can't comprehend what I said, read it slowly so you understand. I can control how hard my car shifts with the throttle, which means I can do it on the fly without retuning the car. Light throttle makes it shift soft and heavy throttle make it shift harder, but it won't exceed the shift firmness I chose with my tuner, which is 25% firmer than stock. You guys with manual transmissions don't understand how an automatic with manual mode works, so you need to read up on it so I don't have to explain it's operation over and over again.
Actually that's the only measure of control that a clutch has over an auto/manual trans that you have come up with, and it's not very useful since most of the time the trans is shifted soft at light throttle and harder at heavy throttle. The only time I can see a use for that is if the road is wet and you don't want wheel spin while shifting, but then that's never a problem for me so it's not an advantage.
Its like it rubs their pussies wrong that some people enjoy automatics or tap shift. LOL. They must of been ******* spanked real bad at the track once or twice then blamed it on the other guy having an auto.
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Honestly I couldn't give two ***** if a stalled automatic car beats me in a race. I drive my cars for me, and I like shifting my own gears and using both legs.
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You're the one that can't comprehend what I said, read it slowly so you understand. I can control how hard my car shifts with the throttle, which means I can do it on the fly without retuning the car. Light throttle makes it shift soft and heavy throttle make it shift harder, but it won't exceed the shift firmness I chose with my tuner, which is 25% firmer than stock. You guys with manual transmissions don't understand how an automatic with manual mode works, so you need to read up on it so I don't have to explain it's operation over and over again.
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No different huh? So your transmission shifts as smoothly/seamlessly as you want or as hard/quick as you want on the fly regardless of throttle input, without having to change any tuning?
The thing you are not getting here is this is not about the quickest shift, or how fast you can go in a strait line, its about being able to control the cars balance in a turn, or coming out of a turn when shifting. An abrupt hard shift that barks the tires is certainly not ideal when coming out of a turn, it could cause some serious oversteer, just as an abrupt downshift could cause understeer.
The thing you are not getting here is this is not about the quickest shift, or how fast you can go in a strait line, its about being able to control the cars balance in a turn, or coming out of a turn when shifting. An abrupt hard shift that barks the tires is certainly not ideal when coming out of a turn, it could cause some serious oversteer, just as an abrupt downshift could cause understeer.
You seemed to miss where I said that I set the shift firmness to 25% so the car's balance isn't upset when upshifting through the corners, and my car has rev matched downshifts which stop the downshifts from upsetting it's balance.