2013 GT500 goes 11.83@123 Stock
05-21-2012, 05:41 PM
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Well since it has more hp, more tq, quicker 0-60, quicker/faster in the 1/4 mile, much better fuel economy, and its base price is actually cheaper than a ZL1, yes i would have to say its a better car. Actually a much better car.
And that was a serious answer with serious FACTS.
Better fuel economy? I just looked and they get about the same. Too close to declare a winner on that front. Both get teens in the city and low 20s on the highway. I did noticed Chevy claims lower. No body buys these cars for that though.
The ZL1 would have more power but it has the ZR1 in its way.
So the GT500 beats it in power and straight line performance. The only thing you fans boys have is that the car makes 662 and is fast in a straight line.
And no Im not a ZL1 nuthugger. In fact, I dont like the 5th gens at all. I would rather have the Mustang but you some of you guys make it sound like the ZL! is a huge piece of ****
05-21-2012, 06:42 PM
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Better fuel economy? I just looked and they get about the same. Too close to declare a winner on that front. Both get teens in the city and low 20s on the highway. I did noticed Chevy claims lower. No body buys these cars for that though.
The ZL1 would have more power but it has the ZR1 in its way.
So the GT500 beats it in power and straight line performance. The only thing you fans boys have is that the car makes 662 and is fast in a straight line.
And no Im not a ZL1 nuthugger. In fact, I dont like the 5th gens at all. I would rather have the Mustang but you some of you guys make it sound like the ZL! is a huge piece of ****
The ZL1 would have more power but it has the ZR1 in its way.
So the GT500 beats it in power and straight line performance. The only thing you fans boys have is that the car makes 662 and is fast in a straight line.
And no Im not a ZL1 nuthugger. In fact, I dont like the 5th gens at all. I would rather have the Mustang but you some of you guys make it sound like the ZL! is a huge piece of ****
I drive a dodge but im a ford fanboy?? Makes a lot of sense.
The info you looked up is WRONG!! The ZL1 does NOT hit 20's on the highway. Ever stop and ask yourself why doesnt the Shelby have the gas guzzler tax and the ZL1 does?? Duuuuhhhhh let me think... Lol
Yes no one buy these cars bc of fuel economy but it doesnt hurt to have it with almost 100more hp. It also doesnt hurt to have over $2000 more in your pocket from not having to pay the gg tax.
ZL1- city 14 hwy 19
GT500- city 15 hwy 24
Oh and the car is the FIRST pony car to be capable of 200+ mph out of the box. Just another reason why its a much better car. And yes straight line performance means everything. Tell me, when the last time you ran a road course??? Also tell me how many road course threads there are on here vs drag strip threads. GET REAL.
Im also not saying the ZL1 is a pos, just compared to the GT500 it may seem like a pos.LOL
The fact that you dont want to admit the Shelby is the better car (even tho i know you know it is) screams that your a good ole Chevy fan boy.
05-21-2012, 07:34 PM
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Well FWIW:
Equal boost out of each setup yeilds some damn close racing. (Wish the ZL1 had the TVS2300!!!)
LMR = Still on stock stall and street tires!
I know this isn't stock but pretty close comparison of what could happen if the general would quit playing around!!!!!!
http://www.lsxtv.com/news/video-lmr-...the-dragstrip/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=ATdRgnMZoq4#!
put a TVS2300 on the LS7 = 2013 ZR1
Revamped cam LS9 = 2013 ZL1
WTF are they waiting for!
Equal boost out of each setup yeilds some damn close racing. (Wish the ZL1 had the TVS2300!!!)
LMR = Still on stock stall and street tires!
I know this isn't stock but pretty close comparison of what could happen if the general would quit playing around!!!!!!
http://www.lsxtv.com/news/video-lmr-...the-dragstrip/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=ATdRgnMZoq4#!
put a TVS2300 on the LS7 = 2013 ZR1
Revamped cam LS9 = 2013 ZL1
WTF are they waiting for!
05-21-2012, 08:46 PM
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1. I provided you with proof that GM ran 11.9's with two ZL1's on drag radials. (not bone stock)
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4. You said that the ZL1 would beat ANY Dodge. Whether its street legal or not its still a Dodge. I just took your words for exactly what they were.
As for the drag pak, put it up against any NA package car and watch it stomp the crap outta them. Even the supercharged cobra jets arent that much faster than the V10 powered challenger. Besided iirc they are in different classes. Dodge kicks *** in its class and so does ford. Chevy will be in both classes i think, we'll see how that goes.
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4. You said that the ZL1 would beat ANY Dodge. Whether its street legal or not its still a Dodge. I just took your words for exactly what they were.
As for the drag pak, put it up against any NA package car and watch it stomp the crap outta them. Even the supercharged cobra jets arent that much faster than the V10 powered challenger. Besided iirc they are in different classes. Dodge kicks *** in its class and so does ford. Chevy will be in both classes i think, we'll see how that goes.
2. I corrected my previous statement about ANY DODGE since you couldn't see where I was going and dodge still lose's so.....
3. As a drag only option the COPO is way better since it doesn't limit you to only one class and gives the ability to buy all 3 engines with the car as one package.
4. Don't cry about fastest N/A car just because your dodge with 512ci has a hard time with a Lil 5.3 with the small blower not even the big blower version. Because if that's the way your going to argue then the ZL1 would be better then the GT500 "IF" it was lighter with the same power, see how that works yeah it doesn't.
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There I left those open so you can have the last word and feel better about yourself.
05-21-2012, 08:59 PM
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I do think it's funny how some Chevy guys dismiss the GT500 as a good handling car and some Ford guys dismiss the ZL1 because it's not as fast in the quarter. Now if that GT500 had the performance pack that's almost 10 g's more then I say the ZL1 is stock for stock better on the road course plus it will be a easier driving car when equipped with the auto which alot of people will appreciate and is an option ford should add to their arsenal of tricks.
05-21-2012, 09:28 PM
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1. Either the video is up and YOU can't prove that their pass was with dr not stock tires so I'm sticking with GM on that one.
2. I corrected my previous statement about ANY DODGE since you couldn't see where I was going and dodge still lose's so.....
3. As a drag only option the COPO is way better since it doesn't limit you to only one class and gives the ability to buy all 3 engines with the car as one package.
4. Don't cry about fastest N/A car just because your dodge with 512ci has a hard time with a Lil 5.3 with the small blower not even the big blower version. Because if that's the way your going to argue then the ZL1 would be better then the GT500 "IF" it was lighter with the same power, see how that works yeah it doesn't.
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There I left those open so you can have the last word and feel better about yourself.
2. I corrected my previous statement about ANY DODGE since you couldn't see where I was going and dodge still lose's so.....
3. As a drag only option the COPO is way better since it doesn't limit you to only one class and gives the ability to buy all 3 engines with the car as one package.
4. Don't cry about fastest N/A car just because your dodge with 512ci has a hard time with a Lil 5.3 with the small blower not even the big blower version. Because if that's the way your going to argue then the ZL1 would be better then the GT500 "IF" it was lighter with the same power, see how that works yeah it doesn't.
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There I left those open so you can have the last word and feel better about yourself.
Also if the little 5.3 with a little blower is so much of a light weight how come its not the entry level engine???
Instead of putting the v10 against the blown 5.3 how about you keep it apples to apples. Ya kno, na vs na. As in 427 (ls7) vs V10. I promise you it wont be pretty for the copo...
05-21-2012, 09:40 PM
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So since you know what the Copo can beat how about you release some numbers. For all three engines. What kinda ets and mph are these cars seeing?
Also if the little 5.3 with a little blower is so much of a light weight how come its not the entry level engine???
Instead of putting the v10 against the blown 5.3 how about you keep it apples to apples. Ya kno, na vs na. As in 427 (ls7) vs V10. I promise you it wont be pretty for the copo...
Also if the little 5.3 with a little blower is so much of a light weight how come its not the entry level engine???
Instead of putting the v10 against the blown 5.3 how about you keep it apples to apples. Ya kno, na vs na. As in 427 (ls7) vs V10. I promise you it wont be pretty for the copo...
Incase you didnt know the 427 Ls7 ran faster in testing than the 5.3/2.9L whipple car.
05-21-2012, 10:02 PM
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So since you know what the Copo can beat how about you release some numbers. For all three engines. What kinda ets and mph are these cars seeing?
Also if the little 5.3 with a little blower is so much of a light weight how come its not the entry level engine???
Instead of putting the v10 against the blown 5.3 how about you keep it apples to apples. Ya kno, na vs na. As in 427 (ls7) vs V10. I promise you it wont be pretty for the copo...
Also if the little 5.3 with a little blower is so much of a light weight how come its not the entry level engine???
Instead of putting the v10 against the blown 5.3 how about you keep it apples to apples. Ya kno, na vs na. As in 427 (ls7) vs V10. I promise you it wont be pretty for the copo...
05-21-2012, 11:29 PM
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I see thank you for clarifying sir.
Oooo....That would be good and bad if it did have the pack because it would be even heavier and still that fast (the good) but on the flip side that puts a much bigger price tag compared to the ZL1 which evens it up a little when comparing performance for the $$$(the bad) but it's probably the base model GT500 which is nasty either way.
Oooo....That would be good and bad if it did have the pack because it would be even heavier and still that fast (the good) but on the flip side that puts a much bigger price tag compared to the ZL1 which evens it up a little when comparing performance for the $$$(the bad) but it's probably the base model GT500 which is nasty either way.
05-22-2012, 05:54 AM
#76
Well FWIW:
Equal boost out of each setup yeilds some damn close racing. (Wish the ZL1 had the TVS2300!!!)
LMR = Still on stock stall and street tires!
I know this isn't stock but pretty close comparison of what could happen if the general would quit playing around!!!!!!
http://www.lsxtv.com/news/video-lmr-...the-dragstrip/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=ATdRgnMZoq4#!
put a TVS2300 on the LS7 = 2013 ZR1
Revamped cam LS9 = 2013 ZL1
WTF are they waiting for!
Equal boost out of each setup yeilds some damn close racing. (Wish the ZL1 had the TVS2300!!!)
LMR = Still on stock stall and street tires!
I know this isn't stock but pretty close comparison of what could happen if the general would quit playing around!!!!!!
http://www.lsxtv.com/news/video-lmr-...the-dragstrip/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=ATdRgnMZoq4#!
put a TVS2300 on the LS7 = 2013 ZR1
Revamped cam LS9 = 2013 ZL1
WTF are they waiting for!
05-22-2012, 08:47 AM
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Ok so ive seen the ls7 performed better in testing. To know that one would have to know what they tested at. I asked for numbers but didnt get anything. Sounds like its just more talk coming out of asses.
If that is indeed the case what a dumb *** mistake by GM. Heres a cheaper entry level engine thats faster than the more expensive engine above it. Great for for consumers, horrible for gm.
Also if thats the case bring on that WEAK *** BLOWN 5.3. I got somethig for its ***.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uvup1r5O08k
And yes this is from my own personal page. Every video i own. This is not my car but i can set up races for it just like its my own. Wheres that damn motor trend book i would love read about fast cars...
If that is indeed the case what a dumb *** mistake by GM. Heres a cheaper entry level engine thats faster than the more expensive engine above it. Great for for consumers, horrible for gm.
Also if thats the case bring on that WEAK *** BLOWN 5.3. I got somethig for its ***.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uvup1r5O08k
And yes this is from my own personal page. Every video i own. This is not my car but i can set up races for it just like its my own. Wheres that damn motor trend book i would love read about fast cars...
05-22-2012, 09:27 AM
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Ok so ive seen the ls7 performed better in testing. To know that one would have to know what they tested at. I asked for numbers but didnt get anything. Sounds like its just more talk coming out of asses.
If that is indeed the case what a dumb *** mistake by GM. Heres a cheaper entry level engine thats faster than the more expensive engine above it. Great for for consumers, horrible for gm.
Also if thats the case bring on that WEAK *** BLOWN 5.3. I got somethig for its ***.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uvup1r5O08k
And yes this is from my own personal page. Every video i own. This is not my car but i can set up races for it just like its my own. Wheres that damn motor trend book i would love read about fast cars...
If that is indeed the case what a dumb *** mistake by GM. Heres a cheaper entry level engine thats faster than the more expensive engine above it. Great for for consumers, horrible for gm.
Also if thats the case bring on that WEAK *** BLOWN 5.3. I got somethig for its ***.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uvup1r5O08k
And yes this is from my own personal page. Every video i own. This is not my car but i can set up races for it just like its my own. Wheres that damn motor trend book i would love read about fast cars...
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