Looking for the pic of about 30 fbody cars in scaring the Cobra
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Originally Posted by 98 Raptor TA
I get tired of hearing people say stock for stock the Cobra's faster, well, it has a supercharger stock! put a supercharger on a stock LS1 and it would spank the **** out of the Cobra. Face it, Cobra's are pieces of **** that are only fast cause they come stock with a s/c.
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Originally Posted by 00firebird
can we quit all the bench racing ? not even bench racing.. you know nothing about any of the cars!
The man that you're quoting, Red01SS, is a member of that same club that I spoke of in my last post. I have met him personally a couple times. He does in fact know quite a bit about each one of those F-bodies pictured, probably because they all live in our area and have monthly meets together! Also, he knows the Cobra driver (also a local guy and friends with many of us in the F-body club) and knows what the Cobra has done. From what I know, that is "03 Steve's" Cobra, which would beat most F-bodies on this entire board!
So when he says that "That particular Cobra would have owned every F-body there".... guess what? He's right!
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Originally Posted by 00firebird
can we quit all the bench racing ? not even bench racing.. you know nothing about any of the cars!
Oh yes, thanks Scott
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Originally Posted by 98 Raptor TA
You're obviously ignorant. What i'm saying is, you cant compare a supercharged Cobra to a LS1 because the LS1 is N/A. Plenty of crappy motors could beat a good N/A motor if you added a supercharger to them. Thats the point i'm tryin to make. Without the S/C the Cobra would be nothing, why do you think the non-supercharged cobra's get spanked by stock f-bodies non stop. Yes the LS1 is a bigger engine, but bigger cant always beat the smaller engine if they aren't both N/A
Ford and GM chose to make power differently. That's the bottom line.
The LS1 is a big cube, high compression naturally asiprated motor.
The Cobra motor is a low compression blower motor.
An '03 cobra motor makes about 310rwhp N/A with 8.5:1 CR. Bump up the
compression to 10.5:1 or 11:1 and you're going to see a 281cid motor
make more power N/A than a LS1.
Originally Posted by 98 Raptor TA
Cobra's are pieces of **** that are only fast cause they come stock with a s/c.
Originally Posted by 98 Raptor TA
put a supercharger on a stock LS1 and it would spank the **** out of the Cobra.
Ok...put a turbo on a stock LS1. Guess what...I'll *** whoop
that too.
Who was the one that made the stupid *** comment about needing
4 cams, 32 valves, and a blower to beat a LS1? You're kidding right?
How about a Mach 1 which is just a little old N/A 281cid motor?
Your big bad 346 LS1 takes a fair share of beatings from them.
Lots of idiots in this world. It really is a shame.
Last edited by unit213; 07-04-2006 at 08:26 AM.
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It's not always what your drivin it's how you drive it. You get someone in a cobra that can't drive for **** and an experianced driver in a T/A, the T/A will win. Ya gotta know when to shift to hit that all so pretty sweet spot in your power band. If you miss a shift, you lose. That's all there is to it. I've won races cause the guy i went up against didn't know to properly utilize all the power he had at his disposal.
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Honestly. I'd take a Cobra or even a Mach 1 over an LS1...basically cause after owning one F-body and knowing what trouble I have had (and the bullshit I get..but that has to deal with me NOT racing it, and having the pile of **** known as the LT1)..I will never own another, and how my Ford gives me no bullshit. It actually is the better ride.
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Originally Posted by unit213
No, it's you sir who is the ignorant one.
Ford and GM chose to make power differently. That's the bottom line.
The LS1 is a big cube, high compression naturally asiprated motor.
The Cobra motor is a low compression blower motor.
An '03 cobra motor makes about 310rwhp N/A with 8.5:1 CR. Bump up the
compression to 10.5:1 or 11:1 and you're going to see a 281cid motor
make more power N/A than a LS1.
Ford and GM chose to make power differently. That's the bottom line.
The LS1 is a big cube, high compression naturally asiprated motor.
The Cobra motor is a low compression blower motor.
An '03 cobra motor makes about 310rwhp N/A with 8.5:1 CR. Bump up the
compression to 10.5:1 or 11:1 and you're going to see a 281cid motor
make more power N/A than a LS1.
Last edited by 98 Raptor TA; 07-04-2006 at 10:35 AM.
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Originally Posted by 98 Raptor TA
god there must be a bunch of stang lovers on this site. Since everyone seems to be backing the cobra i'm saying one more thing, then i'm done on this subject. The Cobra has 4 cams, and 32 valves and still needs a S/C to beat a LS1, and it doesn't even beat one by that much, that to me is sad. Yes if you upped the compression in a Cobra it would probably still be fast, but Ford didn't, If they did, and the Cobra could beat LS1's all day N/A, then i'd actually show it some respect. But i HATE mustangs so you must understand my opinion is very biased. I dont wanna argue with people here, it's pointless, i gave my opinion, if you agree, cool, if not, that's fine too, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
another is i dont understand the outright hatred for a car (any make and model) because of the name or the company that made it...
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Originally Posted by 1bdbrd
having your own opinions is one thing but calling names and blasting a car because of your biasedness is another. you contradict yourself in taht post is pretty much all im going to say.
another is i dont understand the outright hatred for a car (any make and model) because of the name or the company that made it...
another is i dont understand the outright hatred for a car (any make and model) because of the name or the company that made it...
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That Cobra would actually destroy the majority of the those F-bodies, but the guy who owned it at the time couldn't drive for ****. Hell, he still can't drive for ****. Anyway, he ended up putting an automatic and solid rear end in the car, and STILL couldn't net decent track times. The car made power, but it was slow due to driver error. The guy now drives a 14 second Saleen Mustang.
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Originally Posted by DSteck
That Cobra would actually destroy the majority of the those F-bodies, but the guy who owned it at the time couldn't drive for ****. Hell, he still can't drive for ****. Anyway, he ended up putting an automatic and solid rear end in the car, and STILL couldn't net decent track times. The car made power, but it was slow due to driver error. The guy now drives a 14 second Saleen Mustang.
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Originally Posted by 98 Raptor TA
You're obviously ignorant. What i'm saying is, you cant compare a supercharged Cobra to a LS1 because the LS1 is N/A. Plenty of crappy motors could beat a good N/A motor if you added a supercharger to them. Thats the point i'm tryin to make. Without the S/C the Cobra would be nothing, why do you think the non-supercharged cobra's get spanked by stock f-bodies non stop. Yes the LS1 is a bigger engine, but bigger cant always beat the smaller engine if they aren't both N/A
last time I checked the COBRA R was N/A and produced 385 HP Sure they only made like 300 but hey I guess that killed your N/A cobra theory.
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How about a Mach 1 which is just a little old N/A 281cid motor?
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Originally Posted by ssman00
I am not tryin to start anything but I have spanked every stock mach 1 I have raced and my car is relativly stock (air lid and exhaust) I make 325 at the wheels which is close to stock