GTO spanked by Evo *vid*
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Originally Posted by GTO69
Well i guess the AWD helped the little EVO win
Originally Posted by BLK85
Im surprised the Evo driver didnt sit ont he line revveing to the rev limiter until the GTO got up there.
Originally Posted by bdr_ws6
Your just an EVO fanboy. I don't care how fast they are, they are the definition of factory RICE. I'd own a slower GTO over one anyday. They look better, sound better, and have much more potential (LSx potential > Mitsu potential).
Originally Posted by 25psi
You got that backwards: 4G63>LSx
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Originally Posted by CantDrv55
Have you sat in a newer Volvo? The seat feels like a damn Lazy-boy. Hands down THE most comfortable seat in a car I've ever sat in.
This shot is taken from the interior of the new C30 (another uberslick looking Volvo that I'd like to get my hands on) but the console is pretty much the same in the S40.
With Ford getting so many things right with Volvo as well as Aston Martin and Land Rover lately I still wonder in amazement how they managed to royally **** Jaguar as badly as they did over the past decade. The new S80 ain't no A6 but I'll be damned if it isn't a better looking car than BMW's whack looking E60 5er.
BTW, got anymore shots of your E39? Nice wheel selection. Sans the M5s set or wheels I think I liked that style on the E39 5er the best. Sorry about the off topic discussion.
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Originally Posted by bruddah_man_matt
Which model exactly? I've only driven an S40 T5 Geartronic but I can honestly say Volvo design has really come a long way since their shitboxes of the 80s. One detail on newer Volvos that I personally think is ubercool is the floating center console.
This shot is taken from the interior of the new C30 (another uberslick looking Volvo that I'd like to get my hands on) but the console is pretty much the same in the S40.
With Ford getting so many things right with Volvo as well as Aston Martin and Land Rover lately I still wonder in amazement how they managed to royally **** Jaguar as badly as they did over the past decade. The new S80 ain't no A8 but I'll be damned if it isn't a better looking car than Merc's bloated W221 S-Class and BMW's whack looking E65 7er.
BTW, got anymore shots of your E39? Nice wheel selection. Sans the M5s set or wheels I think I liked that style on the E39 5er the best. Sorry about the off topic discussion.
This shot is taken from the interior of the new C30 (another uberslick looking Volvo that I'd like to get my hands on) but the console is pretty much the same in the S40.
With Ford getting so many things right with Volvo as well as Aston Martin and Land Rover lately I still wonder in amazement how they managed to royally **** Jaguar as badly as they did over the past decade. The new S80 ain't no A8 but I'll be damned if it isn't a better looking car than Merc's bloated W221 S-Class and BMW's whack looking E65 7er.
BTW, got anymore shots of your E39? Nice wheel selection. Sans the M5s set or wheels I think I liked that style on the E39 5er the best. Sorry about the off topic discussion.
If I need a family car, I'd most likely get the S60R.
I don't have any more pics of my 540 here at work. I'll put a few up after I get home later.
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Originally Posted by Boosted 99 TA
didnt even watch the vid...EVOs lick. nice thread on ls1tech. what were you thinkin when you posted this... you are just gonna keep get hammered on. HORRIBLE!
Originally Posted by CantDrv55
Hmmm..I can look down and see Cobra vids on here as well. Oh the ironing!!!
Originally Posted by 25psi
For one, the motor has been proven to hold 5 times its original intentions. Secondly, the stock motor has been proven reliable for over 600rwhp. The tuner market is basically endless. There are people running low 7's with the factory block and stock displacement. The block itself it iron. The heads flow expectionally well stock! Able to hit low 11's with stock turbo(no nos)
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Originally Posted by bruddah_man_matt
Gee if that isn't an example of the "ricer philosophy" I don't know what is. I know your LS1 is faster than my Type-R but my Type-R despite being slower looks better, sounds better, has a better suspension etc...
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Originally Posted by CantDrv55
Hmmm..I can look down and see Cobra vids on here as well. Oh the ironing!!!
Sorry I just found that a little amusing.
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Originally Posted by bdr_ws6
Yea, your right. Since my opinions are weighed more to the apperance side of cars and not on just being flat out crazy fast I am ricer. It's called different tastes. Did I ever say that the GTO is better than the EVO? No, I said I like it better due to me thinking it looks better and sounds better. I did go on to say something about the potential of the motors where the GTO took the upper hand. I respect EVOs, but I do not like the cars one bit. Call me ricer all you want, I don't care.
To each his own I supposed. If there's a manufacturer guilty of dispensing factory rice it's Pontiac. Especially a few years ago. Talk about **** for side cladding, scoops here, vents there and gaudy exterior ad ons slapped onto each and every one of their models. I figured they were starting to "get it" when they replaced the confused looking Grand-Am with the smoothed out G6 and when the gave the Bonnie it's final update before discontinuing the line but the G6 GXP concept and the hood scoops on the upcoming G8 are two steps back toward factory rice if you ask me. Ugh. The GTO was also a slick looking car until the ruined it with the hood scoops. To be fair I liked the scoops on the hotted up HSV GTO/Monaro VXR because of their heavily modified exteriors but it just flat out did not work on the American market GTO IMO.
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Originally Posted by bruddah_man_matt
I guess I just don't understand where you get off claiming that an Evo is "factory RICE" when everything about the Evo screams function over form. Yah it looks like a box on wheels but it's a box on wheels for a reason. To each his own I supposed.
If there's a manufacturer guilty of dispensing factory rice it's Pontiac. Especially a few years ago. Talk about **** for side cladding, scoops here, vents there and gaudy exterior ad ons slapped onto each and every one of their models. I figured they were starting to "get it" when they replaced the confused looking Grand-Am with the smoothed out G6 and when the gave the Bonnie it's final update before discontinuing the line but the G6 GXP concept and the hood scoops on the upcoming G8 are two steps back toward factory rice if you ask me. Ugh. The GTO was also a slick looking car until the ruined it with the hood scoops. To be fair I liked the scoops on the hotted up HSV GTO/Monaro VXR because of their heavily modified exteriors but it just flat out did not work on the American market GTO IMO.
To each his own I supposed. If there's a manufacturer guilty of dispensing factory rice it's Pontiac. Especially a few years ago. Talk about **** for side cladding, scoops here, vents there and gaudy exterior ad ons slapped onto each and every one of their models. I figured they were starting to "get it" when they replaced the confused looking Grand-Am with the smoothed out G6 and when the gave the Bonnie it's final update before discontinuing the line but the G6 GXP concept and the hood scoops on the upcoming G8 are two steps back toward factory rice if you ask me. Ugh. The GTO was also a slick looking car until the ruined it with the hood scoops. To be fair I liked the scoops on the hotted up HSV GTO/Monaro VXR because of their heavily modified exteriors but it just flat out did not work on the American market GTO IMO.
Oh man I do agree with the Pontiac statment, I mean look at the Aztek...wtf??? I think it all started around 1998 with the body change on the T/As, just IMO. I didn't like the scoops the GTOs got in 2005, but I did like the dual exhaust and the rear bumber treatment it got. I think when you ordered one you could get it without the scoops.
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cantdry55,you sound like a real piece of work! 
.My point is how close my 91' talon's motor was in comparison to the evo's.The reliability factor remains the same,HORRIBLE.You can only put so much on a 4 cylinder w/o it breaking down consistently.If the 4g63 motor was more reliable,I would've possibly looked into buying an evo,if I could get past owning a 4 door econobox.The LS series motors are far more reliable from what I've put them through personally.And as I've said already,the 91' was pretty much built new from the ground up,especially the motor,so no excuses.It fell apart,and now I'm over it.I put the little toy in the garbage and bought a car with a REAL motor in it.
.My point is how close my 91' talon's motor was in comparison to the evo's.The reliability factor remains the same,HORRIBLE.You can only put so much on a 4 cylinder w/o it breaking down consistently.If the 4g63 motor was more reliable,I would've possibly looked into buying an evo,if I could get past owning a 4 door econobox.The LS series motors are far more reliable from what I've put them through personally.And as I've said already,the 91' was pretty much built new from the ground up,especially the motor,so no excuses.It fell apart,and now I'm over it.I put the little toy in the garbage and bought a car with a REAL motor in it. Thread Starter
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Originally Posted by bruddah_man_matt
Umm... seeing as you deemed it necessary to inform someone on page 3 about the difference between you're and your you might want to edit your post and replace ironing with what I assume was supposed to be irony before you get **** for that.
Sorry I just found that a little amusing.
Sorry I just found that a little amusing.
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Originally Posted by 00ws6spd
cantdry55,you sound like a real piece of work! .My point is how close my 91' talon's motor was in comparison to the evo's.The reliability factor remains the same,HORRIBLE.You can only put so much on a 4 cylinder w/o it breaking down consistently.If the 4g63 motor was more reliable,I would've possibly looked into buying an evo,if I could get past owning a 4 door econobox.The LS series motors are far more reliable from what I've put them through personally.And as I've said already,the 91' was pretty much built new from the ground up,especially the motor,so no excuses.It fell apart,and now I'm over it.I put the little toy in the garbage and bought a car with a REAL motor in it.
.My point is how close my 91' talon's motor was in comparison to the evo's.The reliability factor remains the same,HORRIBLE.You can only put so much on a 4 cylinder w/o it breaking down consistently.If the 4g63 motor was more reliable,I would've possibly looked into buying an evo,if I could get past owning a 4 door econobox.The LS series motors are far more reliable from what I've put them through personally.And as I've said already,the 91' was pretty much built new from the ground up,especially the motor,so no excuses.It fell apart,and now I'm over it.I put the little toy in the garbage and bought a car with a REAL motor in it.
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cantdrv...can't comprehend is more like it!! 
I said how it was very similar!!Which it is!!Yes,it's been updated,but it's the same platform,and if you're going to try to deny that,you obviously know nothing about the 4g63.
You obviously know nothing about the ls series motors as well,as you would NEVER compare the two if you did.The ls series motors are WAY more reliable for race applications.Why do you think you have seen almost every kind of vehicle with a ls series swap?Do you ever see someone put a 4g63 motor into something other than a mitsu?Not hardly,if at all.Do you see it with ls1's/2's?HELL YES.The ls series motors are proven to be able to put down 1,000 reliable horsepower RELIABLY.Ever seen that on a 4g63?HELL NO!
I said how it was very similar!!Which it is!!Yes,it's been updated,but it's the same platform,and if you're going to try to deny that,you obviously know nothing about the 4g63.
You obviously know nothing about the ls series motors as well,as you would NEVER compare the two if you did.The ls series motors are WAY more reliable for race applications.Why do you think you have seen almost every kind of vehicle with a ls series swap?Do you ever see someone put a 4g63 motor into something other than a mitsu?Not hardly,if at all.Do you see it with ls1's/2's?HELL YES.The ls series motors are proven to be able to put down 1,000 reliable horsepower RELIABLY.Ever seen that on a 4g63?HELL NO!
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my STOCK 06 put a beating on 2 "modded evos" fuking ugly grocery getters they never stood a chance. I love what they are doing with new evos they look just like a mazda6 only more... ricey? Why do parents let their teenage kids on the computer? to come to ls1tech.com and talk about what they have in their "stable" which includes a bmw however he claims that IF he ever wanted to car for the interior he WOULD HAVE bought a bmw?? hmmm something doesn't sound right here. Evo's are like dogshit ... there everywhere!!
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Originally Posted by 00ws6spd
cantdrv...can't comprehend is more like it!!
I said how it was very similar!!Which it is!!Yes,it's been updated,but it's the same platform,and if you're going to try to deny that,you obviously know nothing about the 4g63.
You obviously know nothing about the ls series motors as well,as you would NEVER compare the two if you did.The ls series motors are WAY more reliable for race applications.Why do you think you have seen almost every kind of vehicle with a ls series swap?Do you ever see someone put a 4g63 motor into something other than a mitsu?Not hardly,if at all.Do you see it with ls1's/2's?HELL YES.The ls series motors are proven to be able to put down 1,000 reliable horsepower RELIABLY.Ever seen that on a 4g63?HELL NO!
I said how it was very similar!!Which it is!!Yes,it's been updated,but it's the same platform,and if you're going to try to deny that,you obviously know nothing about the 4g63.
You obviously know nothing about the ls series motors as well,as you would NEVER compare the two if you did.The ls series motors are WAY more reliable for race applications.Why do you think you have seen almost every kind of vehicle with a ls series swap?Do you ever see someone put a 4g63 motor into something other than a mitsu?Not hardly,if at all.Do you see it with ls1's/2's?HELL YES.The ls series motors are proven to be able to put down 1,000 reliable horsepower RELIABLY.Ever seen that on a 4g63?HELL NO!
Hey, I used to own an LS1 car, I know everything about the LS7!
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Originally Posted by sweetness
my STOCK 06 put a beating on 2 "modded evos" fuking ugly grocery getters they never stood a chance. I love what they are doing with new evos they look just like a mazda6 only more... ricey? Why do parents let their teenage kids on the computer? to come to ls1tech.com and talk about what they have in their "stable" which includes a bmw however he claims that IF he ever wanted to car for the interior he WOULD HAVE bought a bmw?? hmmm something doesn't sound right here. Evo's are like dogshit ... there everywhere!!
I believe there is going to be an Evo X in '08. What upgrades are they doing to the GTO for the '08 model year?
I like your little rant you typed up there. Judging by your obvious lack of proper English usage, I'm assuming you fall into the "teenage kids" category that you try to lambaste.
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cantdrv55,I believe "sweetness" was on to something,and I believe you're full of dogshit!!There is no chance in hell an evo would "smoke" an 05' goat.I have one.I've raced them.A stock one I WILL beat every time.If you wanna find out,make a trip to ohio.