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Old 04-29-2007, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Marc 85Z28
Sure... Why are you only picking up 4MPH on a 125 shot?
Simple - 26" slicks don't work well with 4.30's, Nitrous & the stock cam/intake manifold rpm range - I'm way past the fat section of my powerband well before the traps.

Nothing 28" slicks on another pair of wheels won't fix.
Old 04-29-2007, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Angus66
I weigh ~ 200 - 205 lbs in "Race Trim" with helmet/fire jacket/shoes/shirt/pants. Not exactly a featherweight (I know a few drivers who are 145 - 150 lbs in "Race Trim"



Nice to see someone who has a little knowledge of these cars...
I come in @ 140, maybe that is why I can go 12.8 in a stock LS1........... LOL

Also, I am a part of Mach1registry (Styles), it pays to know the opponent.......... LOL. I know about your car and I know it is legit, and I also know that you are a striaght up guy with nothing held back. The lack of knowlegde is really shown in this thread. I am a die-hard fan of the LSx, but I am not biased and I am not afraid to point out facts.
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what RPM is your Mach at on the freeway with those gears? not trying to bash, I'm just curious.
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Well everyone has there threshold, I certainly would not have run more than 4.10's in a DD Cobra.
Old 04-30-2007, 03:48 AM
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I know this guy. I'll pm him to come over.
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Originally Posted by redz_02
It says he was only running 4 psi, thats about a 40-50 hp jump, nothing to crazy. I've never had a problem with 4.6 strokers, think the fastest NA is in the 9's.
PSI has nothing to do with it. i made 472/501 on stock motor with 7.5 psi. and i make more power now with less psi.....
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Originally Posted by Chris Gage
I come in @ 140, maybe that is why I can go 12.8 in a stock LS1........... LOL
"Built-In" weight reduction - I like it!

Originally Posted by Chris Gage

Also, I am a part of Mach1registry (Styles), it pays to know the opponent.......... LOL. The lack of knowlegde is really shown in this thread.
I am much the same way & that's one of the main reasons I'm a member of LS1Tech.com, LS1GTO.com, LS1.com, etc.

I set my personal ET goals based on not only what other N/A Mach's & Cobras have done (or are doing) but also F-Bodies, Corvettes & GTO's.

I'm also not a big fan of "absolutes" (ie; car X can never do this or it's impossible to do that), as the absolute statements are usually not based on fact but opinion.

Originally Posted by Chris Gage
I am a die-hard fan of the LSx, but I am not biased and I am not afraid to point out facts.
While I'm not a "Fan" per se, I definitely respect the potential of the LSX series of engines.
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Originally Posted by transAm-98
what RPM is your Mach at on the freeway with those gears? not trying to bash, I'm just curious.
Roughly 2650 rpm.

This rpm resulted in 24 - 25 mpg when my Mach was heavier than stock weight w/aftermarket rear wheels/tires.
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This is a very nice Mach 1.
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bad *** mach...
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Wow... I don't even know where to start... just read the original thread from SVTperformance for any additional info you're looking for and if you still call BS, please post afterwards.

http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...d.php?t=383580

FYI, The red TA, while cutting awesome 1.49 60's and lifting the wheels like so with an entire drag suspension, it only trapped 113 MPH. Shouldn't be too hard to believe I beat it from a roll. The black TA is my girlfriend's. Her best ET is 11.74, but her best MPH is only 115 MPH. That shouldn't be too hard to believe I beat her street tire vs. street tire when you take away her 1.5 60's she gets on the M/T's. The TT Z28, I still scratch my head about. I thought I was racing a V6 Camaro with twins until he popped his hood afterwards. The Cobalt traps around 112 MPH and is the fastest Cobalt I've ever seen, otherwise I wouldn't have wasted my gas. My car has never been sprayed yet. It blew a head gasket while testing the window switch with an empty bottle and it has been at SGS performance ever since then.

Btw, Angus, 03AV8R and JTCobra on the Mach 1 registry all run 11.3's or better on the bone stock motor, naturally aspirated. They know how to make the best out of their cars and my hats off to them cause they're kicking my built motor car's ***.

I know cammed LS1's can make some serious power and I'm SURE there are plenty on this site that will smoke me, but I really hope the guys in this thread that are bolt-on only don't actually believe they could take me on the highway...

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Those Mach 1' s launch pretty d'mn hard off the line, I am glad I never came across one from a dig in my wheel hopping fool of a Cobra

And those are some d'mn good N/A #'s, I guess the little 4.6 isn't that shitty of a motor after all

You know hearing about cars that trap less than mine ET'ing alot better on the same or heavier weight gets to me. I wasn't planning on drag racing but I am curious to what it will run with the built tranny and stall.
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https://ls1tech.com/forums/member.php?u=87276 is a member of this site and my girlfriend. She is the second TA I raced. Feel free to check her profile.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/member.php?u=34727 is another F-body I raced and is the only LS1 to date to pull on me on the highway. I'm sure he'd be able to verify most of these kills.
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Originally Posted by redz_02
This is going to be interesting. 32 valve 5.0 ltr's are pretty stout, maybe he should take on an LS1 stroker .
LOL nah. I'm just happy to be running with 346 cube motors with my 302 cube motor. You'll never hear me say my car is better than a 408, 427, etc,. Did I pick my races? Maybe. I'm a member of over 30 car forums. It does help to be informed when racing...
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Originally Posted by Angus66
You've got that backwards.

.62 is lower than .67 & results in reduced cruising rpm for highway driving...



The double OD has little to do with streetability when using 4.30 or 4.56 gears.

The steep 3.38 1st gear of the 3650 (vs 2.66 in the Cobra 6-speed) has more affect on street manners by far.
Beat me to it... .62 is better than .67 if you want to keep the revs down. The 600 I had had a 2.86 first gear. Not enough for only 352 RWTQ as proven by my crappy 60' times. Bog city.

Btw, with the stock motor I was still getting well over 25 MPG highway with 4.30's.
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Originally Posted by germeezy1
You know hearing about cars that trap less than mine ET'ing alot better on the same or heavier weight gets to me. I wasn't planning on drag racing but I am curious to what it will run with the built tranny and stall.
I know how you feel... on a 115 MPH pass I only beat a car that trapped 103 MPH by a tenth of a second. He killed me all the way down the track and I passed him at the last second. It's the 3rd race in this video http://videos.streetfire.net/video/1...5a00f2935f.htm

The announcer's reaction is great. On the one solo pass I made, watch how badly I bogged. This was the first night I was having the clutch problems. I was getting a lot more MPH, but a lot crappier ET's.

I'm hoping with the C4, my MPH and ET will match up a little better!
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Hey 04azuremach, I was the one who saw it on SVT and posted this post. Very nice car man. 398rwhp from a small mod, Im impressed! Keep it up.
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Originally Posted by JayplaySS2
Hey 04azuremach, I was the one who saw it on SVT and posted this post. Very nice car man. 398rwhp from a small mod, Im impressed! Keep it up.
Thanks man. Took a long time to get there. If I kept the manual trans and dynoed it with the ported manifold I'm confident it would have surpassed 400 RWHP. Nazman (I'm sure you know of him) was my inspiration for my engine build. I don't come close to his NA numbers on his 304 CI mod motor. I'm not expecting much more than 360 (if that) to hit the tires through the C4 though. Those numbers mean nothing though!
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Originally Posted by redz_02
It says he was only running 4 psi, thats about a 40-50 hp jump, nothing to crazy. I've never had a problem with 4.6 strokers, think the fastest NA is in the 9's.
on a ls1 one pounds of boost should be about 20RWHP not 10. on a 4 cylinder it is about 10 for every one pound of boost.
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Originally Posted by linn.35
on a ls1 one pounds of boost should be about 20RWHP not 10. on a 4 cylinder it is about 10 for every one pound of boost.
Like with any motor, it also depends on the size of the turbo, it's efficiency etc,. 10 PSI with 101 MM turbo > 15 PSI with 68 MM Turbo. I have no idea what the specs of the turbos the LS1 was using. It was a rear mount setup.


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