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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 11:16 PM
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Back in March I purchased a used set of Z06 wheels with tires from him, being told that the rear tires still had good life remaining, and that the wheels were straight and had no warps. They did have some scuffing but I was aware of that and hence the good price.

Upon receiving them, I found the rear tires to be completely bald and had to be replaced right away before installing on the car - which cost me over $1000 CDN - an unexpected BIG expense.

Then once I finally take my car out of storage after the snow is gone, I install the wheels only to find one of the rear wheels is warped and causing the car to shake at highway speeds.

I contacted a wheel repair place and was given an estimate of $150 CDN to repair the wheel. I then contacted lucky_topher to ask him to either cover the cost of repair (since he said the wheels were straight but one wasn't) or refund my money completely and I would return the wheels to him. He was uncooperative for either method and is now not returning any e-mails or messages.

I have filed a complaint with PayPal on this issue, and will go from there. I would be happy with the cost of repair on the wheel, even after having to fork out another $1000 on new tires.
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Z28Venom
Good Luck man...

I had problems with this guy over on LS1.com.. but Paypal solved my problem with him..
all contact was kept up with you.. the only issue at hand was that you were PM'ing me while i was banned (you had my email).. i shipped the product, but it was return-to-sender'd to me.. i then reshipped at no extra cost to you, a partial refund was sent back to you via paypal automatically... and you still received your product... you also said you'd refund that partial refund and never did... yet i didn't harp on it for the trouble that was gone through... i spent more money on that refund and shipping than you spent on the actual product...
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 03:00 PM
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FYI, on the issue with OttawaLS1...

here is the PM i sent in response to this issue:

don't know what to tell you at this point. I ran the wheels on my car with no vibration/shaking/problems. The wheels were in perfect condition. I have others who also drove the car (at high speeds as well) who can vouch for them being in great working order. Between the issues with paypal (which did in fact cost me $) and the shipping being at a higher cost than i had estimated (which I absorbed)... I lost money on these... now if they arrived to you and were not straight, you may consider filing a claim with the shipping company, as they were insured for $1000 per box ($2000, total). They were straight when they were shipped. Being that it has been 6 weeks since the wheels have been shipped, and it was shipped insured, and everything was working here.. .it is going to be up to you to take care of this if there is any issue with the wheels... I'm not going to send you the $ to repair them, and i will not accept return of them either...
after the wheels were shipped, paypal ended up reversing the charge (showing I owed a large amount to paypal since the buyer was refunded) saying this was a fraudulent account... this issue was eventually resolved, but in doing so, created a new purchase by the individual... in doing this, i had to pay the cost for candian->US conversion AGAIN, as well as the fees issued to a merchant account AGAIN... after the payment was re-issued, i was still in the negative amounts on paypal..

being an all around nice guy and having done many successful transactions in the past (ls1tech, ls1, ls2, ebay, etc) i chalked up the loss and didn't request anything from the buyer for 'compensation'...

the wheels were in perfect shape when they were sent. they were on my car, driven at high speeds with no problems, and i am not the only one who was witness to that. the issue about having to buy tires is irrelevant whereas during the 'pre-purchase' process, i sent hi-res .JPG images to him showing a penny in the tread to verify tread depth.. he noted that they would not pass inspection there, and he'd probably need tires soon, but the price was good, and he accepted the purchase.. full knowing the actual tread depth... the "unexpected expense" of new tires doesn't hold water in this situation.... i didn't drive the car more than 10 miles after the pictures of the tire tread were taken.

End result.. the buyer got a set of z06 wheels at a great price.. i worked through the issues with paypal (i lost money due to nothing of my fault), issues with shipping (it was more than i quoted him but i ate that cost as well, honoring my original deal), etc... it has been over 6 weeks since the transaction completed and products were received... i feel i have been an upstanding party through the whole situation, have been in good contact, provided shipping tracking information, detailed pictures of each wheel, honesty in actual non-perfect shape of all wheels, and now i am being asked to send an additional $110ish US $ because the party claims that one wheel isn't straight now... I feel I have held up to my end of the deal....
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 03:09 PM
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I have had business with lucky_topher and I have zero complaints.

To me, if sounds like you got a great deal on a set of Z06 wheels. You had pictures, you knew the tire issue.
These wheels were shipped all the way from Texas to Canada...if there truly is an issue with these wheels, and topher says they were straight when taken off his car and mailed to you, seems like you should be pressing the shipping company and not dragging a member's name though the mud.

-IMO
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 03:28 PM
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FYI:

Total costs incurred for paypal issues (related to buyer):

$7.50 - Cost to convert currency 2nd time
$50.04 - Fee for "fraud" reversal
$23.66 - Merchant seller cost 2nd time
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$81.20 - Total

Cost requested by you for repair of wheel - $110 US

$110 - $81.20 = $28.80

If it would appease you, I will paypal $28.80 in good faith to prove to my fellow LS1 community that I *AM* a good seller (and have been in countless other episodes). The $28.80 + the fees incurred by me due to issues that were not seller-related equals the cost requested for the repair of the wheel.
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Old Apr 30, 2004 | 04:33 PM
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no response from original poster yet....

note: here is the picture i sent the poster of the tread of the rear tire prior to sale: http://www.lifeinwidescreen.com/treadr.jpg

tread was known prior to purchase
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Old May 2, 2004 | 04:21 PM
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First of all, you shipped them to the wrong address. I gave you 2 addresses, one for my work, one for home. You could have shipped to either one, but you MIXED the addresses together to create an address for a place that never existed. While tracking the packages, once they were within the city here and I noticed on the tracking website they said "refused by receiver" - so I called UPS and they said the address on the packaged didn't exist... so I asked what the address was they had them shipped to. Turns out, it was a mix of both of my addresses. My work address street name but my home address house number. So I had to wait several days for them to return to the UPS warehouse and then go pick them up.

Now you want to talk about charges... I had to pay $60 per box CDN for the address mixup. As for your fraud charge with PayPal... I called and asked them about this, they said no such charge has been made since it never showed up on their end as a fraud. All they did was cancel the original payment to you. As for conversion funds from CDN->US $$... I got charged for those (as well).

As for that picture, I never did see that picture. Prior to purchase I had concerns about the rear tread life from a different picture you had sent. You told me they had many miles remaining and would pass safety easily. But, the tires I can deal with since I was somewhat aware that they would be wore. It's the one warped wheel that is my concern. Also there is NO possible way only 1 wheel could receive this kind of damage from shipping, when the boxes showed no sign of damage. I also checked with a tire shop and they checked out the wheel on their balancer and said it was done while on a car.
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Old May 2, 2004 | 09:38 PM
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If I shipped to the wrong address, that was never mentioned to me. on 3/12 you sent me an email:
I picked up the wheels the other day but have yet to even open them, been so busy with other things. But like I said, you WILL get your money and I have no intentions what-so-ever to rip you or PayPal off. I'm sorry for all of us that they messed this up but I guess mistakes happen
no time in there did you state a $60/box charge nor info regarding a mixup with the address.. what was their reason to charge you such a large fee? that doesn't sound like anything i've ever heard from UPS

for the paypal charges listed, i didn't pull those outta thin air and can post a screenshot if necessary, but they happened.. and they happened at ZERO cause of myself...

you claim you didn't see the picture.. i'm starting to disbelieve the things you say.. on 2/19 i sent you an email with the links for the pictures and this was your reply back via email:

From: Rob MacLennan
To: christopher@lifeinwidescreen.com
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: wheels


Damn! Those rears are worn pretty good. They won't pass safety here for sure. I'll have to price out some new tires I guess, hopefully not too expensive. I'll price out some tomorrow.
you were fully aware of the tread depth... you also replied with another email:

From: Rob MacLennan
To: christopher@lifeinwidescreen.com
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 11:41 PM
Subject: Re: wheels


Ya, they are beyond safety point so I would have to replace them right away.
i don't know whether or not a tire shop can tell by a balancer whether anything is done on a car or off a car.. i have made an offer to repay minus the fees that I ate and did not mention because i was completing the deal in good faith. If you accept, I will paypal the $28.80 that I offered previously immediately. It is obvious that I was very clear about the entire process.. the condition of all wheels, including the rust that was on top of the clearcoat on one... the detailed pictures of each, pictures of the tread, and constant email updates...
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Old May 2, 2004 | 09:53 PM
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I know Topher and he doesn't lie, in fact he will tell you like it is at all times. I find the evidence at hand and your supposed expenses to be outright BS. I would ask that everyone ignore this guy's ignorant post cause it's
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Old May 2, 2004 | 11:50 PM
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Trendkiller Z28 - if you are calling me a liar, come say it to my face. I know what I have received, and it IS warped.

lucky_topher - I don't know for sure if you knew the wheel was warped or not prior to selling but the fact remains that it IS. Like I said, the rear tires are not a concern anymore since I replaced them, so forget about that - that's not the issue I am even concerned with as I have said several times. By checking prior e-mails about the tread depth, I could not find that picture anywhere. There was a different picture and when I try to go to the link for it now, it says the link is no good. But, like I said, tires aren't an issue to me now. You were honest about the rust on the one wheel so I am tending to believe you were not probably even aware the one wheel was warped. If this is the case, then I am not blaming you for shipping me something that was damaged on purpose, but since you were the seller, you are responsible for the product.

As for the wheel and tire shop... these guys deal with this stuff all the time and know what they see. It's not a major warp and the wheel is usable, but the vibration from that one wheel at high speed is a huge concern.

As for the shipping charge I had to pay from UPS - I did send you an e-mail about that, saying I had to pick them up and had to pay $120 CDN for the 2 boxes before I could even get them. If you don't believe that, you can call UPS. I'd scan the receipt and send that to you if I had a scanner. As for the shipping address, if you go through all the e-mails again, you'll see you mixed up the 2 addresses.
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