would i get away with just changing the plugs and not the wires?
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I do it on a lift at a auto skill shop.
un plug the coolent vaulve from the top both of them.
Lift the car and up plug the coolent vaulve from the on the radaitor its in the middle of the radiator at the bottom. and theres also another plug somewhere id have to look for it. it takes like 3-4 jugs of coolent to refil it though.
Some pepole say you never have to change it. Me its cheap and easy why not do it?
un plug the coolent vaulve from the top both of them.
Lift the car and up plug the coolent vaulve from the on the radaitor its in the middle of the radiator at the bottom. and theres also another plug somewhere id have to look for it. it takes like 3-4 jugs of coolent to refil it though.
Some pepole say you never have to change it. Me its cheap and easy why not do it?
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I used a single set of Taylor 10.4 mm wires for like 120k miles. I changed them because I had a misfire issue, but it turned out that a bad plug was causing the issue, not a bad wire. Those Taylor wires are awesome, but I've had MSDs fall apart on me.
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Don't disconnect your AC lines!!!
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Instead, remove your coil pack rail on the passenger's side to get access to those plugs. The plug furthest back on the passenger's side is much easier to get to from underneath the car. If you haven't removed your AIR system, you'll also have to unbolt the AIR tube from the exhaust manifold. The coil rail and the tube are both 10mm head bolts. A little trick... after the first time, don't ever put the furthest bolt on the coil rail back in. It's not needed, and it's a real pain to get to when you do a tune up.
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Don't disconnect your A/C to change your spark plugs, that really is unnecessary. You can't just put more freon in it without adding oil as well, and making sure it is properly charged requires a few special tools.
You can change your plugs but not wires with no problems as long as you pull the wires off in one piece. Don't pull on the wires, only pull on the boots so that you don't pull the wire out.
You can change your plugs but not wires with no problems as long as you pull the wires off in one piece. Don't pull on the wires, only pull on the boots so that you don't pull the wire out.
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Ok you go around your motor and pull off all the wires 1st.
Then you get your spark changer and do the driver side 1st.
Stick it down there and use a mirror to see the spark plug so you dont have to fish for it. Latch it on turn it pull it out along with the metal peice.
put the metal peice back on the new spark plug put it back in the slot after you put the silvery stuff on it and turn it by hand 3 times then if it feels right use the tool to fully tighten pretty tight. repeat for the rest of the driver side sparks.
Passanger side do the front 2 then unbolt your AC from the middle and move it out of the way so you can reach the back 2 sparks. watch out for the freon it stings.
the back 2 on the passanger side i greatly recomend a mirror and LED light. do the same as the driver side and rember there a pain in the *** to reach.
Re attatch your AC after your done and put a 24oz can of freon into it by unscrewing the black peice attached to the can thingy. Hold the can and shake it upside down. (gets more freon and less air in there)
shouldent take very long at all. Ive done it drunk so your good.
Then you get your spark changer and do the driver side 1st.
Stick it down there and use a mirror to see the spark plug so you dont have to fish for it. Latch it on turn it pull it out along with the metal peice.
put the metal peice back on the new spark plug put it back in the slot after you put the silvery stuff on it and turn it by hand 3 times then if it feels right use the tool to fully tighten pretty tight. repeat for the rest of the driver side sparks.
Passanger side do the front 2 then unbolt your AC from the middle and move it out of the way so you can reach the back 2 sparks. watch out for the freon it stings.
the back 2 on the passanger side i greatly recomend a mirror and LED light. do the same as the driver side and rember there a pain in the *** to reach.
Re attatch your AC after your done and put a 24oz can of freon into it by unscrewing the black peice attached to the can thingy. Hold the can and shake it upside down. (gets more freon and less air in there)
shouldent take very long at all. Ive done it drunk so your good.
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PS It sounds like you need some LS1 service/mod info so If you want someone to walk you through it go to www.installuniversity.com and click on the spark plug and wire swap link. www.ls1howto.com has some helpful info too that you may want to read along with photos.
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wow i must have skipped where you said you release the freon just to change plugs, thats just stupid, and it probably doesnt take any less time in the long run since you now have to refill the whole ac system. it would have been easier and more efficiant, not to mention SAFER, to just deal the the ac lines being a little bit in the way.
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Ok you go around your motor and pull off all the wires 1st.
Then you get your spark changer and do the driver side 1st.
Stick it down there and use a mirror to see the spark plug so you dont have to fish for it. Latch it on turn it pull it out along with the metal peice.
put the metal peice back on the new spark plug put it back in the slot after you put the silvery stuff on it and turn it by hand 3 times then if it feels right use the tool to fully tighten pretty tight. repeat for the rest of the driver side sparks.
Passanger side do the front 2 then unbolt your AC from the middle and move it out of the way so you can reach the back 2 sparks. watch out for the freon it stings.
the back 2 on the passanger side i greatly recomend a mirror and LED light. do the same as the driver side and rember there a pain in the *** to reach.
Re attatch your AC after your done and put a 24oz can of freon into it by unscrewing the black peice attached to the can thingy. Hold the can and shake it upside down. (gets more freon and less air in there)
shouldent take very long at all. Ive done it drunk so your good.
Then you get your spark changer and do the driver side 1st.
Stick it down there and use a mirror to see the spark plug so you dont have to fish for it. Latch it on turn it pull it out along with the metal peice.
put the metal peice back on the new spark plug put it back in the slot after you put the silvery stuff on it and turn it by hand 3 times then if it feels right use the tool to fully tighten pretty tight. repeat for the rest of the driver side sparks.
Passanger side do the front 2 then unbolt your AC from the middle and move it out of the way so you can reach the back 2 sparks. watch out for the freon it stings.
the back 2 on the passanger side i greatly recomend a mirror and LED light. do the same as the driver side and rember there a pain in the *** to reach.
Re attatch your AC after your done and put a 24oz can of freon into it by unscrewing the black peice attached to the can thingy. Hold the can and shake it upside down. (gets more freon and less air in there)
shouldent take very long at all. Ive done it drunk so your good.
-get a spark changer
-use a mirror to find the plugs
-put on the silvery stuff
-put the spark plug in the "slot"
-driver side "sparks" and passenger "sparks"
-unscrew the black piece attached to the can thingy
His terms and instructions SCREAM "don't trust me or anything i say"
Note: words spelled wrong in his post: Peice x 3, shouldent, attatch, rember, passanger x 2, recomend.
Seriously, unhook a/c lines, vent the freon into the air, and watch out cause it stings?
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hey i changed the 4 in the driver side so far. i'll do the rest tomorrow. i got ngk tr-5 on them! the guys at advance auto said its oem better than stock
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I would never take advice from some who says
-get a spark changer
-use a mirror to find the plugs
-put on the silvery stuff
-put the spark plug in the "slot"
-driver side "sparks" and passenger "sparks"
-unscrew the black piece attached to the can thingy
His terms and instructions SCREAM "don't trust me or anything i say"
Note: words spelled wrong in his post: Peice x 3, shouldent, attatch, rember, passanger x 2, recomend.
Seriously, unhook a/c lines, vent the freon into the air, and watch out cause it stings?
Guys like this are the reason R12 isn't allowed anymore. Before long we won't have 134a in the parts store because of people abusing the convenience with which it is available.
-get a spark changer
-use a mirror to find the plugs
-put on the silvery stuff
-put the spark plug in the "slot"
-driver side "sparks" and passenger "sparks"
-unscrew the black piece attached to the can thingy
His terms and instructions SCREAM "don't trust me or anything i say"
Note: words spelled wrong in his post: Peice x 3, shouldent, attatch, rember, passanger x 2, recomend.
Seriously, unhook a/c lines, vent the freon into the air, and watch out cause it stings?
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Well said sir...the guy is an idiot..posting up information that far from being correct should be a crime..
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But on the other hand, how many people have seen the two glass containers hermetically sealed together with refrigerant oil in one and water in the other? No one? Not surprising. This demonstration was done by a major refrigerant manufacturer to show how synthetic refrigerant oil (thatis used in these cars) 'sucks' water into it.
In the time it takes to change the plugs with the ref lines disconnected, the oil has absorbed some moisture from the air. Nothing is said about running nitrogen through the lines to keep air out (the proper way to do it) or at the least capping the ends of the lines, or even most important using a vacuum pump after opening up the lines.
EDIT Moisture contaminated oil forms a barrier on the inside of everything the ref goes through, what this means is reduced cooling performance. Usually no do it your selfer can figure out why they have good ref pressures and low cooling, and none know how to resolve the problem.
And a final observation: for such an **** retentive military guy, I think spelling should be up there on the priorities list.
Education is questioned when your grammar is full of errors.
PS: non military here, no spell check used, no post edit.
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since you have a 1998 as well can you give me tips on that? im really starting to beat myself up
im starting to give up and just leave the passenger side alone. i already took the two 10mm bolts from the air pipe manifold on the passenger side.
this really sucks
im stuck