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Old 11-09-2008, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by theguyulove2hate
i have been doing a lot of looking about and reading, seeing as how im getting ready build a new motor. The 98 and 99 are just as good as the 00-04 LS1. They made changes in late 2000 including the rod bolts, heads, cam, intake. Gm started putting the 241 heads on which is a much better flowing head, but the detuned it with the cam. In 01 they started putting the ls6 intake on and they put much stronger rod bolts in. Thats it other than a few minor changes such as egr and this and that.
The '00 models shared the same intake and cam as '98-'99. The upgraded rod bolts came out in '99. Very late '00 thru '02 cars received the better 241 heads. The cam change (to a smaller cam, actually) was in '01 along with the intake. No '00 LS1 ever came with the LS6 intake or updated cam.

The exahust manifolds and cats were updated for '00 as well.

The 241 heads aren't a "much better flowing head". 243s (LS6 head) would be much better flowing, but the 241s are only slightly better than an 806 ('98) or 853 ('99-'00) due to the casting process.
Old 11-09-2008, 10:52 AM
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My 98 gets beat alot and got over 100k..........runs great im only worried about my trans but its an auto
Old 11-09-2008, 01:10 PM
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I have a 98 and I have had zero problems since I bought it three years ago and I don't baby it.
Old 11-09-2008, 01:24 PM
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yeah dont worry i have a 98 ls1 its my DD and ive had it for awhile now im at 69xxx miles, and this car is at WOT daily, i have had no issues at all.. so dont worry..only thing that took a **** was my trans..
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Don't listen to these guys, the 98s are junk, ticking time bombs ready to go off if you even think about getting on the gas pedal!!!

J/K. I just love how some of the disinformation on the 98s tends to keep their prices lower... so I can buy them for cheap.

I like to go by condition/price when I shop. i.e. a 98 w/18k on it priced at 8.3k is a better buy than an equivalent condition 01 w/45k for thousands more. Leaves me with more money in the bank, or the money saved could pay for a lot of mods if I chose to go that way.

Good luck with your search, be patient and you will get a good buy, lots of deals out there right now.
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theres no real big difference. i have a 98 t/a with zero problems.

the only thing i would be worried about the different years is the pcm. go for a 99 and up if you can. 98's have a pcm thats hard to tune and only few tuners will actually touch it. but then again, the only tuner who i would allow to tune my car is someone whos familiar with ls1 fbodies and vettes. but all in all, it doesnt matter what you pick. you will pay $3k more for a 2001 or 2003 over a 98 or 99, but but who can easily swap in an ls6 intake and still have $$ left over for other stuff
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^^ many people will tune 98 pcm's ive never seen anyone turn down a 98 pcm... i think they are only bad for boost setups, i may be wrong about that though..
Old 11-09-2008, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by johnLs1camaro
^^ many people will tune 98 pcm's ive never seen anyone turn down a 98 pcm... i think they are only bad for boost setups, i may be wrong about that though..
i had heard about the boost thing, also ive heard one of the years you have less control as to how much you can turn timing up or down, that maybe the 98's.
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There aren't many handheld tuners for the '98 PCMs, but in terms of custom dyno tuning it's no problem at all. LS1 Edit, HP tuners, etc. will all work on a '98. Any shop that dyno tunes can do a '98.

For major FI applications, it is a bit harder to tune a '98 PCM though. But how many people are planning to build a huge boosted motor? Most will do bolt-ons, maybe heads/cam and that's it. '98s are just fine for that.
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id go 99 and up.
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ahhh, this forum's amazing, got so much feedback thanks alot guy's, i'll have a ls1 soon hehe
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I was under the impression that the gear ratios in the 6 speeds as well as the autos were stouter in 98 and were changed after for the 99 models. Not the engine itself but this would definitely effect you on how you feel the car is performing.
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Originally Posted by 96autoformula
I was under the impression that the gear ratios in the 6 speeds as well as the autos were stouter in 98 and were changed after for the 99 models. Not the engine itself but this would definitely effect you on how you feel the car is performing.
The auto's came stock with 2.73's and you had to order the 3.23's. The manual's came with 3.42's. This was the same through 98-02.

I have a 98 and i love it man. With full exhaust and an intake i'm at a 12.6. I have never had a problem with the car since i have owned it. She does take a beating but she can handle it! There all great years don't be scared of a 99. All the differances were stated above in 98 and there stupid little things that are easy to change. Good luck man. Let us know when you get the car
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Remember, '98s have some advantages too. Bigger injectors than '99-'00, stronger flex plate (A4) than '01-'02, working temp gage (rather than the '99+, which is little more than an idiot light), less issues with torque management after a converter install on the stock tune, and some minor cosmetic stuff (which is subjective I guess).

Most '98 haters are people that have never owned one. Those of us who have, know how cool they are.
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I have 98.....I have solid #'s



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