oddwraith

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What constitutes "full bolt-on" in an ls1 car? How much do these bad boys put down? I read in here somewhere that the highest full bolt on ls1 put down upwards of 380rwhp? Is that correct? Because I thought full bolt-on would be what I have, plus headers? So if I am to assume that is correct, and that it was an m6 that put down over 380 with bolt ons only, than an auto would be at around 365. Leaving a bolt on auto without headers at or around 340-345rwhp (taking into account the fact that headers seem to add about 20 rwhp). So tell me, am I missing something or does this seem accurate?

therobman

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its rare to see full bolt ons at 380 . its usally 355-365 for a m6 and 340-350 for a a4 full bolt ons to me is a intake like a lid, a ls6 manifold, a full exhuast header back, ported and polish throttle body, usally gears and maybe pullies

99345hp

gears wouldn't be included on bolt on.

Ive considered bolt ons as:
Lid, LS6 or other intake manifold, headers, y-pipe, catback, and underdrive pulley.

My car has most of them but the intake manifold and pulley and it puts down 346 hp and 361 tq at the wheels.

fccs

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Yea it is possible to put down around 380 but you probably would have to have a hell of a tune and be really lucky. I would say its more possible of 360rwhp with full boltons. Thats a more realistic goal

therealcreeper

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ram air kit, lid/cai, ported throttle body, smooth bellow, ls6(or better) intake mani, full exhaust, pullies

also torque converter for autos(debatable)

oddwraith

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Hmmm, I have the catback, ls6 intake, and lid. I don't have the headers or the underdrive pulley but I do have a canned tune which helps a fair bit with a lightly modded car. So with headers and pulley i'd be pretty much full bolt-on and then could start looking at cams down the road maybe.

therealcreeper

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no no no no. stall, then cam.

oddwraith

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Really, smooth bellows? I heard that they are pretty much cosmetic and may yeild only one or two hp.

oddwraith

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Oh yeah! I almost forgot about that. The stall and cam should be matched.

therealcreeper

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yeah i doubt there is more than a 1 hp gain, but it is a "bolt-on" of sorts, and you did say FULL bolt-on haha

oddwraith

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Damn so with a tune you'd be over 360 rwhp. Nice!

oddwraith

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True true

oddwraith

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Have you thought about adding the ls6 intake? Bet your car would like that_breath of fresh air?

bene

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Ported MAF ends, EWP, FTRA-SSRA are bolt ons you forgot to mention.

therealcreeper

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i was considering it right after headers, but now i don't know. i have the money, but i need new tires sometime soon so i'm using that as an excuse to buy new wheels and tires haha. after that i think i might just start saving for a stall. lots of people get good gains out of em but i've been seeing dynos of people only gaining 6-10hp, so for the $300 i think i might be better off just going straight for the stall.

Detoxx03

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Realisticly about 360-365 hell my car bolt on with cam and stall did 386

therealcreeper

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keep in mind you lose more power through an auto especially with a non-locking stall

99345hp

sorry I forgot to mention that is tuned. When you start modding you definately need a tune.

therealcreeper

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what kinda dyno is that on? what correction factor?

a tune is a good idea though. if you're doing a cam or something major in the near future though, you can go without. i probably woulda waited a while for one but TTP was running a special i just couldn't pass up.

BtownblkSS

why does everyone keep calling a lid a cold air intake? they are 2 different things. mass air flow sensor is a bolton.