Went and looked at a 02 SS for sale
07-24-2009, 07:12 PM
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Went and looked at a 02 SS for sale Hey everyone. New guy here. Well I went and looked at a 02 camaro ss tonight. Thought it was going to be my dream car. Well I walked away. I have a few questions because I think the car has been hit and worked on. First off, should there ever be over spray in the wheel well on the sound dampner stone gaurd undercoating stuff. It's near the bottom on the front side of the rear well. Also, in that same well, the tire has rubbed on the undercoating stuff. Small spot, but wore it down to the bare metal. Can that ever happen in a very hard turn or something. I would think not.
Then in the B pillar I could see some imperfections. The owner said he has seen it in other cars. Looked like a possible weld job but then again it could of just been a run from the factory, or factory weld. I haven't looked at enough of them I guess that close. Now the final ? Underside of the doors. Does that paint normally scratch very easily? These doors had mutiple scratches under there. But yet the sills were perfect. When I took my nail to one of the scratches to see if it was something else, I scratched the paint. So what does everyone think. I guess my next step is a carfax. Or I'm hoping you guys in here can help. Thanks
Then in the B pillar I could see some imperfections. The owner said he has seen it in other cars. Looked like a possible weld job but then again it could of just been a run from the factory, or factory weld. I haven't looked at enough of them I guess that close. Now the final ? Underside of the doors. Does that paint normally scratch very easily? These doors had mutiple scratches under there. But yet the sills were perfect. When I took my nail to one of the scratches to see if it was something else, I scratched the paint. So what does everyone think. I guess my next step is a carfax. Or I'm hoping you guys in here can help. Thanks
07-24-2009, 09:24 PM
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Mine had bumped something not bad, but they replaced the nose. It doesnt appear the bags have been deployed. The core support from what I can see looks straight. I went and looked at a red SS and it had been hit hard enough to deploy the bags. It didnt bend anything and the core support looked fine. He was up front and told me. I walked away because I really didnt want a wrecked car. Even though it had been fixed perfectly. There should not be over spray in the wheel wells. Are you sure the car didnt have hail damage at some point and they just repainted the whole truck? My dads 00 silverado got hailed on and the dealership put a brand new GM hood on it and repainted the whole truck. You really should just ask the guy. Its good that you are heads up on stuff like that though. Its been repainted at some point. For what ever reason you need to find it out. I am going to have to get my car fixed, in two days of owning it I got backed into in a parking lot. The car drove away and I didnt know who did it. Then I got rear ended and its scratched the back bumper. I was able to get enough money out of the rear end wreck to repaint the whole car and fix the dent in the side. Stuff happens. GL with the car and get us some pics up soon of what you are conserned about.
07-25-2009, 12:18 AM
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That is my car almost. I'm a SOM 01 M6 Hurst leather and T-tops.
It looks clean and unmolested. You better give it a second look and ask questions. Have you gotten the carfax?
Between 01 and 02 less then 600 SS's were SOM!
I know that I am bias to these, but, that car deserves another look.
I bought mine new and wouldn't sell it for the world.
It looks clean and unmolested. You better give it a second look and ask questions. Have you gotten the carfax?
Between 01 and 02 less then 600 SS's were SOM!
I know that I am bias to these, but, that car deserves another look.
I bought mine new and wouldn't sell it for the world.
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Thanks guys! I really love the car. I'm still working on the carfax. I told the owner flat out that I was ready to make a deal but there are a couple things that bother me. I asked if he had a carfax done and he said no. I told him how picky I am and how even body shop guys could not believe the eye I have. I said, I don't want to point out the stuff at this point because I know how it is once people point out stuff and then you see it too. It's a clean car and I firmly believe this guy being the supposed 2nd owner has no idea "if" it is wrecked. I'll just have to get the car fax and go from there. So have any of you seen any of the stuff I saw on this car?
07-25-2009, 08:06 AM
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Thanks guys! I really love the car. I'm still working on the carfax. I told the owner flat out that I was ready to make a deal but there are a couple things that bother me. I asked if he had a carfax done and he said no. I told him how picky I am and how even body shop guys could not believe the eye I have. I said, I don't want to point out the stuff at this point because I know how it is once people point out stuff and then you see it too. It's a clean car and I firmly believe this guy being the supposed 2nd owner has no idea "if" it is wrecked. I'll just have to get the car fax and go from there. So have any of you seen any of the stuff I saw on this car?
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He'll let me carfax. I just need to do it. He gave me the VIN.
He's asking 16,500
I thought originally if I could get it for 15K it would be a great deal.
What do you think?
So no input on the underside of the doors scratching so easily?
He's asking 16,500
I thought originally if I could get it for 15K it would be a great deal.
What do you think?
So no input on the underside of the doors scratching so easily?
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Carfax came back clean. Does anyone know what it means when it says Service Contract issued?
I'll try and paste the report here.
AutoCheck Vehicle History Report
2002 Chevrolet Camaro Z28Report Run Date: 2009-07-25 13:13:12.935 EDT
VIN:
Year : 2002
Make : Chevrolet
Model: Camaro Z28
Style/Body: Coupe 2D
Class: Sport Car - Touring
Engine: 5.7L V8 MFI / MPI
Country of Assembly: Canada
Vehicle Age: 7 year(s)
Calculated Owners: 5
Last Reported
Odometer Reading: 27,013
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Vehicle Use and EventCheck: Specific vehicle use(s) or events reported
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Title and ProblemCheck
Your vehicle checks out! AutoCheck's database for this 2002 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 () shows no negative titles or other problems. When reported to AutoCheck, these events can indicate serious past damage or other significant problems.
0 Problem(s) Reported: 15 Title/Problem areas checked:
No abandoned title record
No damaged title or major damage incident record
No fire damaged title record
No grey market title record
No hail damage title record
No insurance loss title record
No junk or scrapped title record
No manufacturer buyback/lemon title record
No odometer problem title record
No rebuilt/rebuildable title record
No salvage title or salvage auction record
No water damaged title record
No NHTSA crash test record
No frame damage record
No recycling facility record
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Your vehicle checks out! AutoCheck examined the reported odometer readings reported to AutoCheck for this 2002 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 () and no indication of an odometer rollback or tampering was found. AutoCheck uses business rules to determine if reported odometer readings are significantly less than previously reported values. Not all reported odometer readings are used. Title and auction events also report odometer tampering or breakage.
0 Problem(s) Reported: Mileage Date Reported
4 12/10/2001
22,619 09/22/2003
24,827 07/23/2004
25,636 07/27/2004
25,636 08/09/2004
26,800 01/10/2007
27,013 05/09/2007
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0 Event(s) Reported: 6 Vehicle uses checked:
No fleet, rental and/or lease use record
No taxi use record
No police use record
No government use record
No livery use record
No driver education record
1 Event(s) Reported: 9 Vehicle events checked:
No accident record reported through accident data sources
No corrected title record
No duplicate title record
No emission/safety inspection record
Loan/Lien record(s)
No fire damage incident record
No repossessed record
No theft record
No storm area registration/title record
Full History
Below are the historical events for this vehicle listed in chronological order. Any discrepancies will be in bold text.
Report Run Date: 2009-07-25 13:13:12.935 EDT
Vehicle: 2002 Chevrolet Camaro Z28
Event Date Event Location Odometer Reading Data Source Event Detail
12/10/2001 GREENFIELD, IN 4 Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:01060237047) (Lien Reported)
06/17/2002 GREENFIELD, IN Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
09/22/2003 NEW CASTLE, IN 22,619 Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:03104182026) (Lien Reported)
07/23/2004 KNIGHTSTOWN, IN 24,827 Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:04028140003) (Lien Reported)
07/27/2004 MUNCIE, IN 25,636 Service Contract Company SERVICE CONTRACT ISSUED
08/09/2004 MUNCIE, IN 25,636 Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:04028151042) (Lien Reported)
08/31/2004 MUNCIE, IN Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
01/10/2007 MUNCIE, IN 26,800 Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:07303004079) (Lien Reported)
01/13/2007 MUNCIE, IN Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
01/18/2007 MUNCIE, IN Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:07303004079) (Lien Reported)
05/09/2007 , MI 27,013 Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:169V1290456)
05/09/2007 , MI Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
04/09/2008 , MI Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
03/31/2009 , MI Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
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I'll try and paste the report here.
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2002 Chevrolet Camaro Z28Report Run Date: 2009-07-25 13:13:12.935 EDT
VIN:
Year : 2002
Make : Chevrolet
Model: Camaro Z28
Style/Body: Coupe 2D
Class: Sport Car - Touring
Engine: 5.7L V8 MFI / MPI
Country of Assembly: Canada
Vehicle Age: 7 year(s)
Calculated Owners: 5
Last Reported
Odometer Reading: 27,013
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Section summaries
The vehicle identification number you submitted has been analyzed and summary information on your car is shown below.
Title and ProblemCheck: Your vehicle checks out!
OdometerCheck: Your vehicle checks out!
Vehicle Use and EventCheck: Specific vehicle use(s) or events reported
Full History: Detailed information available
Title and ProblemCheck
Your vehicle checks out! AutoCheck's database for this 2002 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 () shows no negative titles or other problems. When reported to AutoCheck, these events can indicate serious past damage or other significant problems.
0 Problem(s) Reported: 15 Title/Problem areas checked:
No abandoned title record
No damaged title or major damage incident record
No fire damaged title record
No grey market title record
No hail damage title record
No insurance loss title record
No junk or scrapped title record
No manufacturer buyback/lemon title record
No odometer problem title record
No rebuilt/rebuildable title record
No salvage title or salvage auction record
No water damaged title record
No NHTSA crash test record
No frame damage record
No recycling facility record
OdometerCheck
Your vehicle checks out! AutoCheck examined the reported odometer readings reported to AutoCheck for this 2002 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 () and no indication of an odometer rollback or tampering was found. AutoCheck uses business rules to determine if reported odometer readings are significantly less than previously reported values. Not all reported odometer readings are used. Title and auction events also report odometer tampering or breakage.
0 Problem(s) Reported: Mileage Date Reported
4 12/10/2001
22,619 09/22/2003
24,827 07/23/2004
25,636 07/27/2004
25,636 08/09/2004
26,800 01/10/2007
27,013 05/09/2007
Vehicle Use and EventCheck
Information Reported! AutoCheck shows additional information reported to AutoCheck about how this 2002 Chevrolet Camaro Z28)has been used and other events. This includes reported accidents and corrected or duplicate titles and storm area registrations.
0 Event(s) Reported: 6 Vehicle uses checked:
No fleet, rental and/or lease use record
No taxi use record
No police use record
No government use record
No livery use record
No driver education record
1 Event(s) Reported: 9 Vehicle events checked:
No accident record reported through accident data sources
No corrected title record
No duplicate title record
No emission/safety inspection record
Loan/Lien record(s)
No fire damage incident record
No repossessed record
No theft record
No storm area registration/title record
Full History
Below are the historical events for this vehicle listed in chronological order. Any discrepancies will be in bold text.
Report Run Date: 2009-07-25 13:13:12.935 EDT
Vehicle: 2002 Chevrolet Camaro Z28
Event Date Event Location Odometer Reading Data Source Event Detail
12/10/2001 GREENFIELD, IN 4 Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:01060237047) (Lien Reported)
06/17/2002 GREENFIELD, IN Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
09/22/2003 NEW CASTLE, IN 22,619 Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:03104182026) (Lien Reported)
07/23/2004 KNIGHTSTOWN, IN 24,827 Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:04028140003) (Lien Reported)
07/27/2004 MUNCIE, IN 25,636 Service Contract Company SERVICE CONTRACT ISSUED
08/09/2004 MUNCIE, IN 25,636 Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:04028151042) (Lien Reported)
08/31/2004 MUNCIE, IN Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
01/10/2007 MUNCIE, IN 26,800 Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:07303004079) (Lien Reported)
01/13/2007 MUNCIE, IN Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
01/18/2007 MUNCIE, IN Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:07303004079) (Lien Reported)
05/09/2007 , MI 27,013 Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:169V1290456)
05/09/2007 , MI Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
04/09/2008 , MI Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
03/31/2009 , MI Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
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Loan/Lien Vehicle Use and EventCheck A loan/lien is the legal right to take and hold or sell the vehicle of a debtor as security or payment for a debt. Normally, a vehicle will have a lien due to a loan or unpaid repair bill against the vehicle. Check with the seller to ensure that the lien has been satisfied.
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07-25-2009, 04:48 PM
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Yeah, he really wasn't sure if he was the second. He just said as far as he knew he was.
So does anyone else have any input for me on this car. Thoughts?
So does anyone else have any input for me on this car. Thoughts?
