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Originally Posted by JaysZ
You may not think it is worth the extra cost, but it is an upscale Z28- I wish I had checked that WU8 option.
cuz in the end those are the only things that would likely not get replaced by say new rims, a new catback, a 12 bolt, and some suspension.
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If you don't think its worth it don't buy it.
The SS package has depreciated little. Add the
package at KBB and find out. DOn't forget you
get tires too but it is a "looks" things. Are chrome
rims worth a grand for looks, thats up to you.
If I were building an all out drag car, I'd have a Z and
save the money. I only plan for simple mods.
Technically SS do not start as Z28's. The package is
added on to the Z28 package but the Z28 stuff NEVER
goes on as from the start of production it is deemed to
become an SS and goes to SLP for finishing.
If you like the look and add a hood and spoiler keep the
Z28 emblems or you're perpatrating. There is nothing
wrong with a Z28 so why change it, it is what it is.
But in the end both models get titled the same.
There still is alot of hating that goes around by Z guys.
You always here about us Wasting money and how they
are just as fast. Why not say nice car, that's what I'd
tell you.
The SS package has depreciated little. Add the
package at KBB and find out. DOn't forget you
get tires too but it is a "looks" things. Are chrome
rims worth a grand for looks, thats up to you.
If I were building an all out drag car, I'd have a Z and
save the money. I only plan for simple mods.
Technically SS do not start as Z28's. The package is
added on to the Z28 package but the Z28 stuff NEVER
goes on as from the start of production it is deemed to
become an SS and goes to SLP for finishing.
If you like the look and add a hood and spoiler keep the
Z28 emblems or you're perpatrating. There is nothing
wrong with a Z28 so why change it, it is what it is.
But in the end both models get titled the same.
There still is alot of hating that goes around by Z guys.
You always here about us Wasting money and how they
are just as fast. Why not say nice car, that's what I'd
tell you.
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Originally Posted by locosteelersfan
If you don't think its worth it don't buy it.
But in the end both models get titled the same.
There still is alot of hating that goes around by Z guys.
You always here about us Wasting money and how they
are just as fast. Why not say nice car, that's what I'd
tell you.
But in the end both models get titled the same.
There still is alot of hating that goes around by Z guys.
You always here about us Wasting money and how they
are just as fast. Why not say nice car, that's what I'd
tell you.
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I'd have an SS if I had waited... but I got a sweet deal I couldn't pas up. I wanted one over a Z just because they look nicer to me.
The Z28 went to SLP with Z28 wheels, hood, wing, exhaust, and suspension. SLP keeps all those parts and sells them as "take offs". I mean, that's a "duh" kinda statement because if you look on slponline.com, you'll see they sell the wheels and some suspension stuff.
I'm pretty sure i've seen pics of cars going to SLP with the stock hood and wing as well.
Still, the SS IS over-rated. There is no denying that. The thing is, it still says SS, and with that, it brings even more appeal of the car due to the long SS history. It looks pretty sweet too. Again, I wish I had a SS, but i'm happy with my Z28.
The Z28 went to SLP with Z28 wheels, hood, wing, exhaust, and suspension. SLP keeps all those parts and sells them as "take offs". I mean, that's a "duh" kinda statement because if you look on slponline.com, you'll see they sell the wheels and some suspension stuff.
I'm pretty sure i've seen pics of cars going to SLP with the stock hood and wing as well.
Still, the SS IS over-rated. There is no denying that. The thing is, it still says SS, and with that, it brings even more appeal of the car due to the long SS history. It looks pretty sweet too. Again, I wish I had a SS, but i'm happy with my Z28.
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Nope, GM puts the same exhaust on as the WS6,
the dual/single. Gm does not paint and build a hood
to waste it. They put sometype of plastic thing in
its place. Naturaly they get tires-they don't float over
to SLP. The takeoff stuff is when you order a Y2Y option
and they replace something.
How is there no deny overrated that makes no sense.
If it looks really sweet as you say, you wanted one
so there are more desirable as you say, worth more,
how is it not worth it. Like I said are chrome wheels
worth it, how about ttops or leather. Its a matter of
opinion so there is no-"no dening anything"
What if I said H/C packages "aren't worth it"
because our cars are plenty fast and why spend
all that money tfor more HP when you could of
of a SS. HOw dumb would that be?
It's a matter of what YOU value and prioritize.
Like I said before either way all I'd say is nice car
because I don't love Camaros because I have one,
I have one because I love them
the dual/single. Gm does not paint and build a hood
to waste it. They put sometype of plastic thing in
its place. Naturaly they get tires-they don't float over
to SLP. The takeoff stuff is when you order a Y2Y option
and they replace something.
How is there no deny overrated that makes no sense.
If it looks really sweet as you say, you wanted one
so there are more desirable as you say, worth more,
how is it not worth it. Like I said are chrome wheels
worth it, how about ttops or leather. Its a matter of
opinion so there is no-"no dening anything"
What if I said H/C packages "aren't worth it"
because our cars are plenty fast and why spend
all that money tfor more HP when you could of
of a SS. HOw dumb would that be?
It's a matter of what YOU value and prioritize.
Like I said before either way all I'd say is nice car
because I don't love Camaros because I have one,
I have one because I love them
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They are over rated because people get a superiority complex over them. They think because it says SS, it's faster than a Z. You gain no performance from the SS unless you order the Y2Y options. I think the only thing that makes any sort of difference is the tires. 275's vs 245's make a difference.
I only think the SS is so "sweet" because of the way it looks, not because of it's performance.
I only think the SS is so "sweet" because of the way it looks, not because of it's performance.
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"They are over rated because people get a superiority complex over them. They think because it says SS, it's faster than a Z"
So how does misinformation make it overrated or undenyably
not worth the money. I was/am the first to admit
its a appeareance package like every other SS GM has
made lately. Why even listen to people who talk about
how much better their SS is, if you've heard this. We
both know the real story, but the real question is why
Flame a car because of an idiot owner. This split amongst
camaro guys is so freaking stupid. If you only like yours,
you're not a camaro guy.
Do Z06 guys get hated on too by other C5 guys?
"I could buy a H/C package and smoke
your Z06 and still have my vert" or some nonsense like that.
So how does misinformation make it overrated or undenyably
not worth the money. I was/am the first to admit
its a appeareance package like every other SS GM has
made lately. Why even listen to people who talk about
how much better their SS is, if you've heard this. We
both know the real story, but the real question is why
Flame a car because of an idiot owner. This split amongst
camaro guys is so freaking stupid. If you only like yours,
you're not a camaro guy.
Do Z06 guys get hated on too by other C5 guys?
"I could buy a H/C package and smoke
your Z06 and still have my vert" or some nonsense like that.
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If there is a "superiority complex" there is defenitly
and "inferiority complex" by guys who feel they need
to always jump up and say Mines just as fast or
You only bought a hood or That's stupid you could have
bought mods. The ones who know there car is sweet
just complement the others as they appreciate the "club"
aspect of owning one of these.
and "inferiority complex" by guys who feel they need
to always jump up and say Mines just as fast or
You only bought a hood or That's stupid you could have
bought mods. The ones who know there car is sweet
just complement the others as they appreciate the "club"
aspect of owning one of these.
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Originally Posted by DMNSPD
You've also switched to this exclusive "club" argument. That's fine and all, but in your opinion, what makes the SS all that much better than the Z? Is it just the exclusivity?
meaning the people who should know better.
You keep reading with such defensive. Your reason is senseless.
reread it. They are overrated because people think
they are better. I like the look but its overrated.
I wanted one bought something else now its overrated.
Overrated how, cause you have a Z.
This is pointless, go over the discussion and think about it.
And another thing before you say someone makes a
"duh" statement, make sure you know what your talking
about, cause it only makes you like twice as dumb when
you call someone out and get shown to be wrong.
Then the "no dening statement" like its a fact.
Dude thats your opinion that you changed, but theres
no denying it. Why did so many people clearly make
the WU8 choice if its to obvisously a rip off.
So they could look down on Z28's I bet, huh
And if someone wants to buy SLP parts why do you care,
do they tell you how to mod your car.
To answer your question, I bought one for the look as I stated
a few times already. There being less on them is another, it stands out more.
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SS's had upgrades rims, tires, suspension, and exhaust.
It's true most of SS owners swap out the SS options for even BETTER parts.
But, in the end... about 20 YEARS FROM NOW we will have a higher resale value with the original parts put back on.
Not saying Z's wont have a great resale value, but SS's hold their value more.
Hope that helped.
~Steve~
It's true most of SS owners swap out the SS options for even BETTER parts.
But, in the end... about 20 YEARS FROM NOW we will have a higher resale value with the original parts put back on.
Not saying Z's wont have a great resale value, but SS's hold their value more.
Hope that helped.
~Steve~
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No matter if you buy a Z or SS your buying a certain VIN number. The SS Vin will hold its retail better than a Z because there werent as many made. As for Identifying an SS it has a black roof no matter the color of the car. Where as the Z's roof was the same color as the car. So the only way to make a true FAKE vision wise is to buy a black Z and put the SS stuff on it.
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Originally Posted by supersonicss
As for Identifying an SS it has a black roof no matter the color of the car. Where as the Z's roof was the same color as the car.
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Originally Posted by minivette
WRONG!!!! I don't think I have read a more incorrect statement in my 6 years on the internet.
Where did you hear this, this is the type of misinformation
that gets floated around the internet and people start
repeating it. THink about it does the car get painted by SLP.
Just so you know the only true way to tell is to check
the PRO codes on the door and look for WU8.
What next black side mirrors indicate a LS6 underneath.
Minivette-that's one of the best avators to date
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I can remember a time when the Z28 came with the "hood/spoiler" from the factory!
My first car was a 1978 Z28, i was 16.
Man i wish i would have kept that one!
Anyway, go back to the mid 70's & look @ the Z28's....
Now, who's the perpetrator?![Winky](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_wink.gif)
Even if you go back to the SS's inception in 1967 & compare it to the Z28, RS, Yenko, etc... Like the other guy said, it's the RPO, Vin, that distinguishes your vehicle. Personally, i like them both. I have the 02 SS 10 spokes with the Z28 logo (thanks Mark IXD) on the cap, I will purchase the Ultra Z hood as that is my choice. No need to see who can **** the farthest. Simply enjoy your ride & let the other guy enjoy his.
My first car was a 1978 Z28, i was 16.
Man i wish i would have kept that one!
Anyway, go back to the mid 70's & look @ the Z28's....
Now, who's the perpetrator?
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Even if you go back to the SS's inception in 1967 & compare it to the Z28, RS, Yenko, etc... Like the other guy said, it's the RPO, Vin, that distinguishes your vehicle. Personally, i like them both. I have the 02 SS 10 spokes with the Z28 logo (thanks Mark IXD) on the cap, I will purchase the Ultra Z hood as that is my choice. No need to see who can **** the farthest. Simply enjoy your ride & let the other guy enjoy his.
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I cant believe he actually said GM ships the camaro's to SLP without a hood, spoiler, or paint.
Dude they are shipped to SLP as any other Z28 is. SLP takes the hood, wing, and wheels/tires off and sell them as "take offs"
Dude they are shipped to SLP as any other Z28 is. SLP takes the hood, wing, and wheels/tires off and sell them as "take offs"
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Originally Posted by onyxxtreme
I cant believe he actually said GM ships the camaro's to SLP without a hood, spoiler, or paint.
Dude they are shipped to SLP as any other Z28 is. SLP takes the hood, wing, and wheels/tires off and sell them as "take offs"
Dude they are shipped to SLP as any other Z28 is. SLP takes the hood, wing, and wheels/tires off and sell them as "take offs"
GM does not build a complete Z28 and ship it.
THis is fact as said by S.Settlemiere and D.Hamburger.
2 guys that know that would know. Why would
they put things on there that would be tossed. If that
were the case the cost would be much higher. Stop
making assumptions and then try to question people based on
them. The parts that go on are temporary cheap fillins.
Do you think they pry the Z emblems off fresh paint too,
are you nuts. DO you think GM points to a few Z28's and
says send those ones like they didn't know from the start
and since they knew from the start why would they put things
on that would be removed.
Second, perpatrating is acting like something your not.
If you rebadge a car its perpatrating. The comparion about
Z28's having a hood scoop in 2nd gens doesn't apply. That's
like C5's calling us perps cause they had an LS1 in 1997.
I never said don't change the hood, just not the logos cause
for what-be proud of the Z28.
(which what I have been trying to say all along)