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Old 03-20-2004 | 11:42 AM
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my SES light came on last night-about 300 miles after borla cat back install- and i got it read and it came up catalyst inefficiency. The borla was welded on by a shop (b/c i bought it used and it was welded already)- could the heat from welding blow the O2 sensors? I HIGHLY doubt that my cats are bad b/c I haven't touched them and I only have 23k miles on the car. I'm prolly gonna replace the O2 sensors- OR should I just order O2 sims to replace the sensors?
Old 03-20-2004 | 12:17 PM
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Wow-it's $70 for EACH O2 sensors from autozone and it's only 90 for a pair of O2 sims from speedinc. Would I get any problems running O2 sims? I don't see any problems with it but you never know. I don't have to pass emissions here and I'm really not ready to do a LT install but maybe in the summer...
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my SES light came on last night-about 300 miles after borla cat back install- and i got it read and it came up catalyst inefficiency. The borla was welded on by a shop (b/c i bought it used and it was welded already)- could the heat from welding blow the O2 sensors? I HIGHLY doubt that my cats are bad b/c I haven't touched them and I only have 23k miles on the car. I'm prolly gonna replace the O2 sensors- OR should I just order O2 sims to replace the sensors?
On my 00 Z28 my drivers side CAT went bad a month after installing a SLP LM and the car only had 14,000 miles. Had them put a new one under warrenty... even though now I no longer have them .
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The cat itself went bad? Do you think it was related to the LM?
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The cat itself went bad? Do you think it was related to the LM?
Yep. The dealer said it had to do with no back pressure, but I don't really belive that. I think this happens when water somehow builds up in the CAT when you don't drive the car long enough distances.
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The only way to know for sure is to check rear O2 sensors for activity but in most cases a cat ineffeciency code is for a bad cat, if you plan on keeping your cats try to have them replaced under warranty, if not try sims or edit and see if the code goes away
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Yup cats go bad, they loose the ability to store O2 & the PCM detects this.
It may be OK on the tailpipe emissions but the O2's can see the catalyst degradation.
I wonder if the battery was disconnected during all that welding though?
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battery was not disconnected (what would that have to do w/ anything?). I would still be pretty suprised if the cat went bad after only 23k miles. My car is no longer under factory warranty b/c it was bought in Aug of 00. I think I'm just gonna order sims on Monday and hope this goes away-if not, I'll have to take it to Midas or something. Stupid sensors.
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yea, i just had that problem, that light came on with that diagnosis, everything was fine till i drove to the beach, my cat grenaded inside, and made a horrible noise, caused another code for knock to go off...get rid of them if u can, if not, get it changed
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I had this exact problem on that exact vehicle, a 2001 WS.6. Got a P0420 code, catalyst inefficiency on my car that has 24,000 miles. Dealer replaced the cat and O2 sensor under warranty, and I have a lid and cat-back. Take it to the dealer and let them hook you up with a new one.
By the way, the warranty on emissions equipment is 8 yr/80,000 mi. so you're still good.
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freaking sweet -Q- thanks for the info. I had no idea that it was 8 year warranty that is awesome. Do the dealers know this as well ?
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Originally Posted by rdavis93
battery was not disconnected (what would that have to do w/ anything?).
All the solid state controllers on you car are not very fond of the electrical spikes produced by an electric arc welder.
Have replaced PCM's & others for this very reason, just a FYI.
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Oh yeah, they know it too. I just walked in and they took the car no questions asked.
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passenger side cat has to be replaced according to the dealer.




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