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Old 10-19-2012, 04:45 AM
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I have a 2000 camaro and this is my first build I have ever
Done I want to get it between 400-450 horse but still have it be street drivable its a 6 Speed manual with upgraded cold air intake. I'm putting a ls6 intake on it ported throttle body and headers to complete the exhaust and doing the lid. With it being my first build I'm not completely sure about the cam or heads. I have heard about v2 and v3 cams I believe they are called and the gm hot cam. I have been told there are better out there this is a daily driver so I don't want a big cam in it but unsure of the size to go. i dont want to have to replace rockers either if i dont have to. i understand i got to do springs and probably push rods. as far as heads go I am unsure also I wanna stay kind of budget friendly I don't know if I should port the stock heads or get the ls6 heads or if there are aftermarket heads for a reasonable price that can get me to 400 horses. The car is drove in the summer and stored in the winter.
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you don't need ported heads to get 400 rwhp.look at some cam kits from thunder racing ,vengeance racing ,or Texas Speed.you can get a mail order tune from Frost for $150.a smaller EPS cam will make 400 rwhp with all the mods .how many miles on your engine ?you mite need a new timing chain and a oil pump and lifters.for a starting point consider a TSP torquer v3,or a ed curtis streetsweeper.
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i have 38 thousand miles on the whole car i have the blank super chip installed and the computer programmer for it also. i will have it dyno tuned when im done with it all. i want to do all the bolt on mods such as headers etc first then ill do the cam and heads a little bit later at the same time i just dont know what cams or heads to get to have a good daily driver and break 400 horsepower
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i currently have installed on it hurst short throw shifter,accceleration slip regulation, leather bucket seats, hot 2006 strut tower brace, mito temp/comp/map lights, gt+93 f-body and enhanced 98-02 f body baer breaks slot/drill/zinc finish on rotors, camaro exhaust system with 3.5 pro tips 93-99 gm f body sub, f body tpi strut tower, pro kit 98-03 camaro z28. It came with one of the best cold air intakes available but i dont remember which one it is. the motor is stock i have just dont alot of cosmetic up to this point rockford fosgate system z06 chrome corvette rims
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I made 385 to the wheels with the LS6 top end off a 2003 Z06. Heads, cam intake, pushrods.

Pacesetter headers and Y pipe, SLP 2OTL full exhaust, Lid, free mods.

With an underdrive pulley, electric water pump, bigger MAF-lid-throttlebody I am sure it would touch 400 to the wheels.

Drives and sounds like a totally stock Z28, gets 30 mpg on the highway.
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so you used a complete ls6 set up ls6 cam heads and intake i was told doing an ls6 cam isnt worth it the effort for the minimal gain
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Originally Posted by Codytaylor90
so you used a complete ls6 set up ls6 cam heads and intake i was told doing an ls6 cam isnt worth it the effort for the minimal gain
Well I'm making good power with it. Look in the dyno section as many have hit 400rwhp with my setup.


My car will sneak up on you, it idles like a stocker.
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some Texas Speed stage 2.5 5.3 ported heads with a 228r cam will make 400+rwhp easily.get a ported throttle body,and consider a 85 mm MAF.
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Originally Posted by garygnu
some Texas Speed stage 2.5 5.3 ported heads with a 228r cam will make 400+rwhp easily.get a ported throttle body,and consider a 85 mm MAF.
WOW, overkill.

Stock LS6 heads and intake, TR 224 or 228 cam with headers will make 420 like falling out of a tree. Why all the extra money?

You dont need all that crap to make 400rwhp.

You can do it cam only with a LS6 intake and headers, masses of people have.
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I thought the ls6 heads we very similar to the stock heads I have already and what cam would u suggest then is the best for a daily driver I'm hearing alot about the torquer v3. what's an affordable head to go to also even if I hit 400 horse without it I would like to upgrade my heads eventually. I don't know a lot about heads or cams so I would to hear my options.
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One thing to consider is to not get too hung up on a certain dyno number. With mods in my sig I made 405 rwhp, but was able to run very close to a pullied/ported 03 Cobra making around 480-490 rwhp on another dyno. Just something to consider...
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Originally Posted by FASTFATBOY
WOW, overkill.

Stock LS6 heads and intake, TR 224 or 228 cam with headers will make 420 like falling out of a tree. Why all the extra money?

You dont need all that crap to make 400rwhp.

You can do it cam only with a LS6 intake and headers, masses of people have.
I have still yet to see all the 400rwh cammed ls1's? Maybe because we only have mustang dynos around here? Most are 370-390 shrug.
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Originally Posted by MikeWS6
I have still yet to see all the 400rwh cammed ls1's? Maybe because we only have mustang dynos around here? Most are 370-390 shrug.
The OP's car is a stick, MANY stick cam only cars make 400.

Read up,

https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...no-thread.html

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Originally Posted by Codytaylor90
I thought the ls6 heads we very similar to the stock heads I have already and what cam would u suggest then is the best for a daily driver I'm hearing alot about the torquer v3. what's an affordable head to go to also even if I hit 400 horse without it I would like to upgrade my heads eventually. I don't know a lot about heads or cams so I would to hear my options.
LS6 heads are cheap and plentiful. Casting numbers 799 and 243 are LS6 heads. Heads are "similar" yes, the same, no.

Call Geoff at EPS(Engine Power Systems) and talk to him about a cam or cam and LS6 heads.

When you get ready to make more power(and you will) pull the heads and send them to Advanced Induction for a CNC port, buy a FAST 92/92 and change the cam and make some real power.
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Originally Posted by FASTFATBOY
The OP's car is a stick, MANY stick cam only cars make 400.

Read up,

https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...no-thread.html
I have read that many times. What I see in person and what I read on here is completely different.
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I had a TSP 228r cam, Kooks headers, Kooks ORY pipe, BBK intake manifold, Asp underdrive pulley, diamond stage 3 clutch with a light weight fly wheel and made 401rwhp and 389tq
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Originally Posted by MikeWS6
I have read that many times. What I see in person and what I read on here is completely different.
My Buddy Greg Smith had a 2002 SS, Bret Bauer cam(230/236 I think), Jet Hot headers and Y pipe, SLP Dual/Dual, lid, tune Stock clutch, 3.42 gear, 11 inch ZR1 wheels.

405/378 to the wheels through the exhaust. No free mods no tricks.

You said you primarily have Mustang dyno's near you, a car that makes 380 on a Mustang Dyno will easily make 400 on a Dynojet.
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Originally Posted by FASTFATBOY
My Buddy Greg Smith had a 2002 SS, Bret Bauer cam(230/236 I think), Jet Hot headers and Y pipe, SLP Dual/Dual, lid, tune Stock clutch, 3.42 gear, 11 inch ZR1 wheels.

405/378 to the wheels through the exhaust. No free mods no tricks.

You said you primarily have Mustang dyno's near you, a car that makes 380 on a Mustang Dyno will easily make 400 on a Dynojet.
I guess that makes sense. My car was at 370/370 on a mustang dyno with the clutch slipping. So 400 on a dyno jet is probably possible.
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Thanks for all the input the key to me is daily driver so te best possible way to get 400 horse while keeping the dd in mind
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This thread just made me change my mind on a Head & Cam package. The OP and I have the same goal... Thanks for the original post OP and the input from everyone.


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