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Old 09-14-2004 | 10:23 PM
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Lt1s are slow...

**** for 15k you can pick up a cammed ls1 with bolt ons pushing 400 rwhp!!
Look in the vehicle classified section....

and trust me you can feel the torque in the passenger seat with a ls1...
for some reason you cant really feel it in the driver seat????
must be the adrenaline...

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Old 09-15-2004 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ws.6kid
Lt1s are slow...

**** for 15k you can pick up a cammed ls1 with bolt ons pushing 400 rwhp!!
Look in the vehicle classified section....

and trust me you can feel the torque in the passenger seat with a ls1...
for some reason you cant really feel it in the driver seat????
must be the adrenaline...
LT1's are NOT slow. It's posts like this that give LS1 owners a bad name. If your gonna stay stock or bolt-ons then it's no surprise that LS1 wins hands down. But anyone who has the desire and cash can get a LT1 into single digits. Try telling Taner how slow his LT1 is. He only managed a 9.58 @ 141 with his M6 LT1.

BTW the myth of LT1's having more torque down low is just that. A myth. Look at the dyno sheets on a stock LS1 and stock LT1 and compare the numbers. If you lined up two totally stock cars at a drag strip and both pull off say a 2.0 60' time then your gonna see the LS1 start to pull slightly on the LT1 right out of the gate. It just won't get ugly until 80mph or so when the LS1 would walk away. But start modding and all bets are off.

LT1's sound better, have great potential and are proven to be very reliable (other then the opticrap). My friends 95 Z28 is still running strong at 155K. Don't sell them short by any means.
Old 09-15-2004 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ws.6kid
Lt1s are slow...

**** for 15k you can pick up a cammed ls1 with bolt ons pushing 400 rwhp!!
Look in the vehicle classified section....

and trust me you can feel the torque in the passenger seat with a ls1...
for some reason you cant really feel it in the driver seat????
must be the adrenaline...
Wow you sound like an experienced one . Want to line up your seat pounding really feel it adrenaline pumping torque monster against my slow LT1 ?
Old 09-15-2004 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ws.6kid
Lt1s are slow...

**** for 15k you can pick up a cammed ls1 with bolt ons pushing 400 rwhp!!
Look in the vehicle classified section....

and trust me you can feel the torque in the passenger seat with a ls1...
for some reason you cant really feel it in the driver seat????
must be the adrenaline...


Go home,

Give me 15k and I'll have an LT1 deep into 10s.
Old 09-15-2004 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by BRETTINATOR
Wow you sound like an experienced one . Want to line up your seat pounding really feel it adrenaline pumping torque monster against my slow LT1 ?
sure
Old 09-15-2004 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ws.6kid
Lt1s are slow...

**** for 15k you can pick up a cammed ls1 with bolt ons pushing 400 rwhp!!
Look in the vehicle classified section....

and trust me you can feel the torque in the passenger seat with a ls1...
for some reason you cant really feel it in the driver seat????
must be the adrenaline...
hehe, for 15k, you can have a 500+rwhp lt1. I just couldn't resist.

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Old 09-15-2004 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by enisguy


Go home,

Give me 15k and I'll have an LT1 deep into 10s.
and with 15k i can have a pinto run the same thing, who cares???

I think we all know he is sold on a LS1...

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Old 09-15-2004 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ws.6kid
Lt1s are slow...

**** for 15k you can pick up a cammed ls1 with bolt ons pushing 400 rwhp!!
Look in the vehicle classified section....

and trust me you can feel the torque in the passenger seat with a ls1...
for some reason you cant really feel it in the driver seat????
must be the adrenaline...
You are certainly NOT the typical classy LS1 owner I am used to seeing on this site. 99% show us the respect we deserve (thanks darensls1formula ). LT1s are great engines and I love both of mine.
Old 09-15-2004 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ws.6kid
sure
Kewl, then put your money where your mouth is, $500.00 bucks and we'll do it at a 1/4 mi. track.
Old 09-15-2004 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by METALBEAST
You are certainly NOT the typical classy LS1 owner I am used to seeing on this site. 99% show us the respect we deserve (thanks darensls1formula ). LT1s are great engines and I love both of mine.
Im not classy b/c i think stock lt1s are slow???
The fact of the matter is LS1 are better engines. If LT1s were better engines GM would of stayed with them.

Jesus, Lt1 guys stop freaking out.
Old 09-15-2004 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ws.6kid
Im not classy b/c i think stock lt1s are slow???
The fact of the matter is LS1 are better engines. If LT1s were better engines GM would of stayed with them.

Jesus, Lt1 guys stop freaking out.
Well, in your original statement you said LT1's are slow (you didnt say anything about stock lt1's). Then you proceed to say that the poster could buy a 400rwhp LS1 (assuming yours) for 15k. Well, he could have a 400rwhp LT1 for 10k. The point was you downed LT1's in general and didnt mentioned anything about "stock" LT1's until you got called out.
Old 09-15-2004 | 03:40 PM
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Drive both and buy what you can afford.
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Originally Posted by ws.6kid
Im not classy b/c i think stock lt1s are slow???
The fact of the matter is LS1 are better engines. If LT1s were better engines GM would of stayed with them.

Jesus, Lt1 guys stop freaking out.
The fact is everyone knows the LS design was an improvement, that's nothing new, welcome to yesterday . It's your junior high lack of technical car knowledge post about slow LT cars that should have never been made
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Originally Posted by BRETTINATOR
The fact is everyone knows the LS design was an improvement, that's nothing new, welcome to yesterday . It's your junior high lack of technical car knowledge post about slow LT cars that should have never been made

LT1s > LS1s

Anything i say will make things worse so can this die now....

IM tired of
Old 09-15-2004 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ws.6kid

LT1s > LS1s

Anything i say will make things worse so can this die now....

IM tired of
You're a ******* idiot.
Old 09-15-2004 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by enisguy
You're a ******* idiot.


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i have a question thats off topic sorry guys but for WS6kid....how do you havea borla Off Road Y pipe but you do have cats...jsut gutted?
Old 09-15-2004 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 02WS6Bird
i have a question thats off topic sorry guys but for WS6kid....how do you havea borla Off Road Y pipe but you do have cats...jsut gutted?
The Borla ORY is made for stock manifolds... Yes cats are gutted . I now have Hooker LTs and a Hooker ORY waiting to be put on along with some other stuff.
Old 09-15-2004 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ws.6kid
Lt1s are slow...

Old 09-15-2004 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by griffz28350
ls1's actuallty have more torque than an lt1. you can just feel it more down low in an lt1 because of the torque curve. trust me, ls1's are the way to go. i have a few friends with lt1's and neither of them can touch me with their cars. and they've got a decent amount of money in them. remember, in an lt1,you are giving up somewhere around 50rwhp to the ls1.and yea, they definitly look a hell of a lot better than an lt1-particulary the trans ams. i got my 99 two years ago for 15K, with 18K miles on it, which is a pretty good deal. so just keep your eye open and you will get a good deal on one. good luck
No slam intended, but I think LS1 T/A's look like *** unless they're Ram Airs, and even then I'd take an LT1 front clip over that. The Carp, uh, Camaro is even worse IMO. My dream car would be an LS1 with an LT1 front clip. It takes all kinds though, and I know I'm a freak. It's the #1 reason I chose my '97 T/A over a LS1 T/A.

LT1's can rock, no doubt. So can almost any engine with enough $$. But, LT1's are dead unless someone wants to step up and start churning out blocks for them. Parts are expensive, and resources are limited. The fact that many hi-po engine builders don't even advertise LT1 engines is a dead give away. The engineering, current and future performance parts potential, and EASE of working on them make the LS1 the better choice. Toss in the 50-75 extra HP over an LT1 and, well, there you go.

Yep, love my LT1 and suffering LS1 envy. The pills are helping, though.



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