What a stock LS1 can beat
09-03-2004, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by ChevySPEED
I've killed a dozen or so ls-1's in my town that were stock.....most were a4's and others were chitty drivers, but I've beaten more ls-1's then I've lost to !
and yes, im still stock.
I'm just trying to say some are slugs, and some drivers just suck.
Oh yeah, and there are some C4 vettes that are stock ( Lt-4 ) that would smoke most ls-1's that are stock.
and yes, im still stock.
I'm just trying to say some are slugs, and some drivers just suck.
Oh yeah, and there are some C4 vettes that are stock ( Lt-4 ) that would smoke most ls-1's that are stock.
2500hd CCSB 4wd 7000lb duramax truck, i have about a dozen kills
on 03-04 GT's. it runs 14.5's all day long. and yes it has taken 3
GT's at the track on 2 different nights. When they are stock they
will run 14.9 - 15.2 driver depending.
09-03-2004, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by antz01ta
i wish you were closer to me, i would hand you your *** with my
2500hd CCSB 4wd 7000lb duramax truck, i have about a dozen kills
on 03-04 GT's. it runs 14.5's all day long. and yes it has taken 3
GT's at the track on 2 different nights. When they are stock they
will run 14.9 - 15.2 driver depending.
2500hd CCSB 4wd 7000lb duramax truck, i have about a dozen kills
on 03-04 GT's. it runs 14.5's all day long. and yes it has taken 3
GT's at the track on 2 different nights. When they are stock they
will run 14.9 - 15.2 driver depending.
Now that is worthy of a Tim Allen AARRGGHH!!
09-03-2004, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by stang killer
Its been a lot of post asking what cars can you out run, so lets just get em all in one post.
I know its some that I forgot and some that may be wrong, but this should help out some of you newbies. If anyone knows of anyhting else of if I put up some wrong info, post up and add to the list.
I know its some that I forgot and some that may be wrong, but this should help out some of you newbies. If anyone knows of anyhting else of if I put up some wrong info, post up and add to the list.
09-03-2004, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by tboneZ
Rice and rustangs need to fear the big diesels with their juice box and 4" exhaust. They can really move and that LP tank in the bed isn't for their gas grill at home either. Grill rice on the road and steaks at home on the same tank. Now that is worthy of a Tim Allen AARRGGHH!!
Now that is worthy of a Tim Allen AARRGGHH!!It does just fine with the 150hp box on it, but the LP tank is soon to come.
09-03-2004, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by ChevySPEED
I've killed a dozen or so ls-1's in my town that were stock.....most were a4's and others were chitty drivers, but I've beaten more ls-1's then I've lost to !
and yes, im still stock.
I'm just trying to say some are slugs, and some drivers just suck.
Oh yeah, and there are some C4 vettes that are stock ( Lt-4 ) that would smoke most ls-1's that are stock.
and yes, im still stock.
I'm just trying to say some are slugs, and some drivers just suck.
Oh yeah, and there are some C4 vettes that are stock ( Lt-4 ) that would smoke most ls-1's that are stock.
09-03-2004, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by distortion_69
If you run 13.4-13.6 with a manual, its not because the car won't do it (unless its in less than optimal running condition).. its because your either a. 250lbs+, or b. slightly below average driver. My car consistantly went as fast as 13.2-13.3 in 90 degree heat when it was stock.
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bone stock I went 13.5 @ 106 with a 2.2 60' on balding Goodyears. I think I did as well as I could.
When I had my Mustang, I could hit 2.0 60's on Sumitomos. Of course I weighed about 50 lbs less.
09-03-2004, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Nocturnal SS
a stock TT SUPRA doe;s about 13.4.
A stock LS1 will do between 12.9 and 13.1
This is in good weather.
A stock LS1 will do between 12.9 and 13.1
This is in good weather.
This all varies a lot, but WRONG and WRONG. We all know of stock LS1's that won't run any better than mid to high 13's regardless of driver. There's also the few stock LS1's that break 12's. Those times are also the exact same case with the TT Supras.
09-03-2004, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by tboneZ
Who the hell is stock anymore anyway? And don't count on your opposition being stock either. If you want to compare stock to stock look in the back of any edition of Motor Trend. They still have the test comparisons there.
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The new M3's are pretty quick, but the ls1 SHOULD take one. I lined up against one at the dragstrip this week, and he got me off the line (shitty launch). After that I steadily pulled on him until I passed him at about the 1000' mark. He ended up running a 13.6 @ 102. By the way, the M3 was an auto.
09-03-2004, 11:01 PM
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Couple things.
1) I have a VERY rich uncle with MANY cars. Two of those happen to be the BMW's we are talking about. (all of these races was when I was stock)
He has a brand new 04 M3 M6 (not the ***** manual as he calls it "smg")
He has a 2001 M5 M6.
We have raced. From a dig, the M3 is a dog unless you launch it. It does however, have very good top end. From the dig it was terrible for him. From a roll, I put .5-1.5 cars on him from 65-110. They do not run 12's from the factory with the normal driver, just like the LS1 does not run 12's with a normal driver. They do normally trap at like 104-106 so a stock LS1 M6 should be able to beat that.
The M5 is a whole different race. From the dig, I still got a little on him to 25 (live axel vs. IRS) but the M5 is simply faster. It weighs a good 500 lbs more than I do, but it has a lot more power than me. We were pretty much even when we hit 50, but he started inching away and by 70 he had a car on me. From a roll, it was just worse for me. 2-3 cars from 65-110
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And whoever says that not every LS1 M6 does have low 13's/high 12's in it. (unless mine is a factory freak as a 98
) I ran a 13.5 when I was completly stock with a freakin 2.2 60 footer time. Do the math. If we just take .2 off the time I am at 13.5 and if we do normal (from what I have heard), every .1 on the 60 is .2 at the 1/4, I would have run a 13.1 with just a 2.0 60 footer! I also did this when I was 17 and I had been driving stick for only a year with a 6 month hiatis, two tires that didn't match at the rear, AND I hit the breaks with about 200 feet left (I heard a hiss, thought T-top was going to fly off 
).
As for the list, just say every BMW except the M5, Z8, and I guess that 760?
When we do magazine bench racing, the drivers have to be equal, so it can go with "best time vs best time/worst time vs. worst time/ average for both.
-Todd
1) I have a VERY rich uncle with MANY cars. Two of those happen to be the BMW's we are talking about. (all of these races was when I was stock)
He has a brand new 04 M3 M6 (not the ***** manual as he calls it "smg")
He has a 2001 M5 M6.
We have raced. From a dig, the M3 is a dog unless you launch it. It does however, have very good top end. From the dig it was terrible for him. From a roll, I put .5-1.5 cars on him from 65-110. They do not run 12's from the factory with the normal driver, just like the LS1 does not run 12's with a normal driver. They do normally trap at like 104-106 so a stock LS1 M6 should be able to beat that.
The M5 is a whole different race. From the dig, I still got a little on him to 25 (live axel vs. IRS) but the M5 is simply faster. It weighs a good 500 lbs more than I do, but it has a lot more power than me. We were pretty much even when we hit 50, but he started inching away and by 70 he had a car on me. From a roll, it was just worse for me. 2-3 cars from 65-110
.And whoever says that not every LS1 M6 does have low 13's/high 12's in it. (unless mine is a factory freak as a 98
) I ran a 13.5 when I was completly stock with a freakin 2.2 60 footer time. Do the math. If we just take .2 off the time I am at 13.5 and if we do normal (from what I have heard), every .1 on the 60 is .2 at the 1/4, I would have run a 13.1 with just a 2.0 60 footer! I also did this when I was 17 and I had been driving stick for only a year with a 6 month hiatis, two tires that didn't match at the rear, AND I hit the breaks with about 200 feet left (I heard a hiss, thought T-top was going to fly off ).As for the list, just say every BMW except the M5, Z8, and I guess that 760?
When we do magazine bench racing, the drivers have to be equal, so it can go with "best time vs best time/worst time vs. worst time/ average for both.
-Todd
09-03-2004, 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by distortion_69
If you run 13.4-13.6 with a manual, its not because the car won't do it (unless its in less than optimal running condition).. its because your either a. 250lbs+, or b. slightly below average driver. My car consistantly went as fast as 13.2-13.3 in 90 degree heat when it was stock.
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What kind of trap did you have? 60ft? etc etc...too many variables to claim just because your car ran 13.2 ~ 13.3 everyone else should.
09-04-2004, 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by MJSLude99
This all varies a lot, but WRONG and WRONG. We all know of stock LS1's that won't run any better than mid to high 13's regardless of driver. There's also the few stock LS1's that break 12's. Those times are also the exact same case with the TT Supras.
The guys driving LS1 on the other hand (not all of them) did go 12.9 to 13.1 I
know this to be true;because i seen it with my eyes! This is in good weather.My car is a 2002 Camaro SS ran 12.96
09-04-2004, 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by jrp
if you had a mach 1 then i'd say you were right, but with an 04 gt, get the **** outta here, you aint gonna fool nobody.
I get the feeling he's trying to say that a Automatic Ls1 is a slug.
I'd like to let him gimme a run against my slug
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Originally Posted by ChevySPEED
I've killed a dozen or so ls-1's in my town that were stock.....most were a4's and others were chitty drivers, but I've beaten more ls-1's then I've lost to !
and yes, im still stock.
I'm just trying to say some are slugs, and some drivers just suck.
Oh yeah, and there are some C4 vettes that are stock ( Lt-4 ) that would smoke most ls-1's that are stock.
and yes, im still stock.
I'm just trying to say some are slugs, and some drivers just suck.
Oh yeah, and there are some C4 vettes that are stock ( Lt-4 ) that would smoke most ls-1's that are stock.
As for your RWHP numbers, how big of a N20 shot were you running?
09-04-2004, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by baddogz28
This is the most rediculous post I have ever read. Somebody said earlier in this thread that maybe you were racing, and the LS1's weren't. That sounds more like what happened to me. The guys in the LS1's probably looked at your GT and thought you weren't even worth it.
As for your RWHP numbers, how big of a N20 shot were you running?
As for your RWHP numbers, how big of a N20 shot were you running?
I love the sig dude!
-Todd
09-04-2004, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 5POINT7
Man, we're giving the stock LS1 motor a little too much credit here. 12.9x's-13.1x's is not average for stock LS1's...realize that. They can do it, but it is not what happens most often. Mid 13's is stock average. That being said:
LT4 Vette will take a stock LS1
an M3 should beat a stock LS1
TT Supra's should stay with stock LS1's
LT4 Vette will take a stock LS1
an M3 should beat a stock LS1
TT Supra's should stay with stock LS1's
09-04-2004, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by blubyeu2000
An lt4 vette will not take and ls1. the zr1 probably woont either on the street due to traction issues.
-Todd
