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Old May 28, 2005 | 05:21 AM
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I have a 2000 T/a Ram air..No ws6...I have run a best time of 13.007 at 107.6 60 ft. was 2.0's at a track in Okc. with these mods..

3.73 gears
True duals...40 series flows
Lid and bellow
(FRA, TB bypass, Descreen MAF
Edit containing- EGR off,AIR off. Rear O2s off, HPP High and Low Octane tables,Tq Mgmt deleted Part Throttle Shift Time Delay deleted, HPP 50% Shift Firmness added. shift points were set to match gears and tires
M/T E/T Streets 26x10x15

over the last week I added..

a set of Hooker Lt's,
10mm Taylor spark plug wires,
NgK TR-55 plugs
BMR Pan hard bar
BMR Rear LCA'S
101 Octane gas
took all the emmissions crap off, Plugged the EGR

Ran my car at the same track last night with the same tires on and my best tme was 13.04 @ 106 60 ft of 2.0's

What is the deal?? why did i lose time??

Someone help me with this


Think i am running to rich??
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Old May 28, 2005 | 08:43 AM
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Did the 101 octane have lead in it?
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Old May 28, 2005 | 10:47 AM
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NO, i dont believe it did.
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Old May 28, 2005 | 11:13 AM
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Well after doing the LT's and ripping the emissons crap off, I'd think you'd need another tune, in order to get the best performance from your mods
And you need to take into consideration the different weather conditions and possibly different DA between the 13.007 run and the 13.04
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Old May 28, 2005 | 11:15 AM
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Should i go with a 85 MM M.A.F. and a Ported TB?? To, help lean it out.
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Old May 28, 2005 | 11:42 AM
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Who installed the headers? any ticking coming from the engine? if so maybe an exhaust leak, if not try to get it tuned, also do you have a log from when you ran the faster time? if so log it again when you go and see if the car is acting different, just a thought
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Old May 28, 2005 | 12:17 PM
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Me an a buddy installed the headers, There is no leaks. No never made a log
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Old May 28, 2005 | 12:32 PM
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get a tune, and what were the weather conditions.
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Old May 29, 2005 | 01:03 AM
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the 101 hurt you...

you only run race gas if you NEED to run race gas.. higher octane is about protecting your motor... not making more power...

now if you found your car made more power with more timing, then you could advance the timing and run 101 to keep detination from becoming an issue...

the easy way to understand it is this... the higher the octane, the slower it burns. if your car is tuned to run on 93, and you feed it 101, then you are giving it fuel that burns slower then it is expecting, it has the exact same effect as pulling timing ... (and pulling timing can kill your track times...) run that stuff dry and go buy normal 93 octane gas your times will improve

if i had to guess, i'd say you will run about .5 faster....

now the more important question...

man you have spent close to 1500 in parts.... for 7-800 bucks you could have bought one part that would have netted you better gains....
a converter!!!!
auto drivers.... a converter should be your second mod(right after the lid that everyone buys first..)

run pump gas and slap a 3600 stall verter and you got a low 12 sec car...
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Old May 29, 2005 | 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by jaberwaki

man you have spent close to 1500 in parts.... for 7-800 bucks you could have bought one part that would have netted you better gains....
a converter!!!!
auto drivers.... a converter should be your second mod(right after the lid that everyone buys first..)

run pump gas and slap a 3600 stall verter and you got a low 12 sec car...
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so what do you think i'll run at near sea level?
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Old May 29, 2005 | 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by firechicken2k
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so what do you think i'll run at near sea level?

uh......... 15.623 @ 197 mph spinning thru the traps......


what are you running now... at what altitude?

there are tons of sealevel calculators online...
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Old May 29, 2005 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by jaberwaki
uh......... 15.623 @ 197 mph spinning thru the traps......


what are you running now... at what altitude?

there are tons of sealevel calculators online...

heh, no idea what it runs yet. never been to the track.
the tracks here in NJ (Atco, Englishtown, etc) are pretty much sealevel altitude.
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Old May 30, 2005 | 02:01 AM
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what tire are you going to run? take it to the track... theres no reason not to .. then if it aint running what you want then we might be able to help you improve it...

but everyone needs a baseline number...
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Old May 31, 2005 | 08:27 PM
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I went and dyno'd today, The A/F is within .5 of the dyno sheet above...he said this is what the tailpipes read...at the motor is within .5...the table runs straight at 13.9...therefore i am at 13.4 - 13.5

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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 04:11 AM
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a converter will change your ET dramaticly
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 10:31 PM
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2200.00 for rebuild and yank Pye3600....no thanks...haha, not that important to me, to be that fasr!! thanks guys ya'll are very helpful
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 11:04 PM
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If you dont get a converter and get it all tuned, you're a fool.
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by stangkillinws6
2200.00 for rebuild and yank Pye3600....no thanks...haha, not that important to me, to be that fasr!! thanks guys ya'll are very helpful

rebuild?
you dont need to rebuild nothing to swap your converter....

a good converter can be had for a LOT less then 2200....
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by jaberwaki
rebuild?
you dont need to rebuild nothing to swap your converter....

a good converter can be had for a LOT less then 2200....

How is that yank going to be on a stock transmission??

Especially the 1 - 2 shift?? The line pressure will eat the tranny intrenals up!! iunno
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by LSWannabe
If you dont get a converter and get it all tuned, you're a fool.

The convertor is 400.00 dollars....and then a rebuild, It really doesn't seem like i need to drop all that money into this this...to gain a second!!

Maybe just me!!
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