any heard of factory freak?
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so my buddy bought a 2000 ta and we went to the track and he ran a 13.0 on the 1/4. his car is stock. some1 said that it is a factory freak. is this possible?
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Do a search for "factory freak". Some people, myself included, believe that this term is thrown around too much without looking at the circumstances behind the event that defines the car as a "freak". I'd just say that the conditions were right and the driver was good in this particular case.
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I am going to have to call the mythbusters on this one.
Factory freak my foot.
I think this modern day urban legend has grown out of the factory ringers that GM used to turn out for the magazine guys back in the heyday of musclecars. The most famous of all IMHO being the 64 389 gto that Wangers gave the guys which actually sported a 421.
Sue me, but my stomach wretches every time I hear someone mention factory freak on this site. All ls-1's are basically the same out of the factory.
Like anything mechanical there are slight variances from car to car. On average low to mid 13's is typical for ls-1's.
A car that goes 13.0's is not unusual for an ls-1, specially if you have good air, and a good driver.
Now the next time someone mentions a factory freak I think I will
Factory freak my foot.
I think this modern day urban legend has grown out of the factory ringers that GM used to turn out for the magazine guys back in the heyday of musclecars. The most famous of all IMHO being the 64 389 gto that Wangers gave the guys which actually sported a 421.
Sue me, but my stomach wretches every time I hear someone mention factory freak on this site. All ls-1's are basically the same out of the factory.
Like anything mechanical there are slight variances from car to car. On average low to mid 13's is typical for ls-1's.
A car that goes 13.0's is not unusual for an ls-1, specially if you have good air, and a good driver.
Now the next time someone mentions a factory freak I think I will
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I believe there are factory freaks. We built a T1 SCCA LS6 which had to remain within factory tolerances. The GM tolerances were wide enough that we could maximize them and still remain legal. I think that if enough tolerances stack up in your favor, you could have a factory freak.
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I think some may be faster than others but what is overlooked is things
like driver's weight. If one driver weighed only 140 lbs. and the next weighs 240 lbs. thats about .1 in the 1/4.
like driver's weight. If one driver weighed only 140 lbs. and the next weighs 240 lbs. thats about .1 in the 1/4.
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Originally Posted by Katech
I believe there are factory freaks. We built a T1 SCCA LS6 which had to remain within factory tolerances. The GM tolerances were wide enough that we could maximize them and still remain legal. I think that if enough tolerances stack up in your favor, you could have a factory freak.
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Originally Posted by HandsomeBWouderful
Good point, I definately bow to experience. However, could your "maximizations"
have happened on the assembly floor in that Canada plant?
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To an extent, yes. But not to the level that we did.
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Originally Posted by 02NBMFormula
dont believe its a freak but just a well maintained car that was driven well during good conditions mixed with a little luck
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I do believe a car can come out of the factory a lil stronger than normal though, reason being..variances in quality of parts. Think about it this way, theres an assload of parts involved in the construction of a car,not all will be 100% every time. More than likely very tiny variances, but they add up, good or bad. On the other hand, the initial break in and maintenance of an engine plays a big role in a "freak" also. A good break in followed with a religious maintenance schedule will almost always net better performance.
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Originally Posted by staringback05
cars can be freaks....my 99 motor with 40k on it sucked, very loose....my new 01 motor is tighter and has more perk to it....its night and day