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Old 01-02-2007, 01:37 PM
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what to do what to do what to do???? got ideas give em to me. wanting 11s quick and not wanting nitrous so give me some tips guys. stock a4 with mods listed below
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It looks like you already got the most important thing, the exhaust, covered with your LTs and cutout, although you would pick up some tq switching to true duals...

Next thing is intake mods, that means get an ls6 intake manifold and consider a 25% underdrive pulley.

Next for quarter mile times is a converter, with trans cooler. Although personally I'm anti-converter unless you're out for just quarter mile.

Then you're going to need some traction, so tires, LCAs, PHR, relocation brackets.

After that you can start thinking about a cam, and associated valvetrain components.
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Originally Posted by lsx24
It looks like you already got the most important thing, the exhaust, covered with your LTs and cutout, although you would pick up some tq switching to true duals...

Next thing is intake mods, that means get an ls6 intake manifold and consider a 25% underdrive pulley.

Next for quarter mile times is a converter, with trans cooler. Although personally I'm anti-converter unless you're out for just quarter mile.

Then you're going to need some traction, so tires, LCAs, PHR, relocation brackets.

After that you can start thinking about a cam, and associated valvetrain components.
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Originally Posted by lsx24
It looks like you already got the most important thing, the exhaust, covered with your LTs and cutout, although you would pick up some tq switching to true duals...

Next thing is intake mods, that means get an ls6 intake manifold and consider a 25% underdrive pulley.

Next for quarter mile times is a converter, with trans cooler. Although personally I'm anti-converter unless you're out for just quarter mile.

Then you're going to need some traction, so tires, LCAs, PHR, relocation brackets.

After that you can start thinking about a cam, and associated valvetrain components.
Think that will be enough power to get a 3500 pound car into the 11s? i have my doubts, any particular reason you dont want to spray it? quickest and cheapest way to get the kind of power to get in there, even a 75 shot might be enough
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im honestly afraid to spray the car. i wouldnt want to blow my baby up. i will consider spray after a cam and a little bit more internal work. what size converter would you reccommend i was think a vig 3600 with a shift kit...accepting any suggestions though. this car is not going to be strictly race it will mostly be daily driven thats why i want to get the most power out of it without nitrous. thanks guys
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Originally Posted by z28maroman
im honestly afraid to spray the car. i wouldnt want to blow my baby up. i will consider spray after a cam and a little bit more internal work. what size converter would you reccommend i was think a vig 3600 with a shift kit...accepting any suggestions though. this car is not going to be strictly race it will mostly be daily driven thats why i want to get the most power out of it without nitrous. thanks guys
ahhhh come on an LS1 would take a 75 shot like it was nothin. 3600 would work fine, but dont expect your rear to last that long with hard launches. Interms of the car being a DD, the spray goes away, a huge cam and other work to make up for that 75hp doesnt.
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yea dont be afraid of nitrous. im spraying a 75 shot with no problems at all.
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ls6 intake, convertor, cam + valvesprings, tune, and sticky tires.

400 ------ 700 ----------- 700 --------- 500 ----- 400

= 2700$ give or take

you'll have to do all the installing yourself, or the labor will run between 1200 and 1600.

you're around 4100 having a shop do it all, but you'll be in the 11's with the right cam and a good tune.
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sfc's, ls6 intake, cam and associated valvetrain, tune, and since your lacking a cb you might as well get some td's
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Some people like nitrous, but I'm not a fan. I like to be able to work an engine N/A at any time not just when I push a button. N02 is good for drag racing however, because it certainly adds significant power, just for the street it doesn't seem like all that great an idea having to refill your bottle, not having power on tap unless your system is armed, just too much pre-conceiving to really be spontaneously fast out on the street, but more importantly all around fun.
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Ya i would invest in a LS6 intake and that will prob drop a tenth right there. A torque converter with some slicks and skinnies will drop you prob round 6-8 tenths . Once you practice on your launches a couple of times you might possibly dip into the high 11's with these 3 not to expensive things. Add a cam and you will no doubt be into the 11s
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Originally Posted by Asmodeus
ls6 intake, convertor, cam + valvesprings, tune, and sticky tires.

you'll be in the 11's with the right cam and a good tune.
Well said, exactly my plan as well with full bolt ons, full exhaust and sticky tires and a great cam and tune to put me in the 11's.
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you guys have some awsome times. also i was debating on the ms3 cam and a set of 3.73 gears with the 3600 stall do you think i would be there with this? also with the ls6 intake should i just get the 78mm intake or should i look into the 90/90 setup. thanks for all your help guys
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As far as intake, don't worry about the FAST intakes until you have a complete heads and cam setup, the ls6 intake is good enough for most basic ls1 applications.

What gears do you have now? If you have 3.23 I wouldn't worry about the 3.73s, it's not enough difference to change them. Also you're not going to get as good gas mileage out of the 3.73, which is considered to be the biggest daily driver gear for A4.
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im actually now sure what gear i have in my car is there any way that i would be able to find out?
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im actually now sure what gear i have in my car is there any way that i would be able to find out?
Look for the GU* code on your driver's side part of the door, ie., GU5, GU2, etc.

Then match up the code you find with the code from this post:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showpost....85&postcount=7

And it will tell you what gear is in your rear.
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Originally Posted by z28maroman
you guys have some awsome times. also i was debating on the ms3 cam and a set of 3.73 gears with the 3600 stall do you think i would be there with this? also with the ls6 intake should i just get the 78mm intake or should i look into the 90/90 setup. thanks for all your help guys
Yes, that would work pretty well for a track car. Eventually you'll need to rebuild the trans. The 4L60 doesn't like high revs in stock form and you have to wind out the MS3 pretty high.
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did a little more reading on the ms3 that cam is way to huge for me. i am not wanting to go all out race. i want to have a car pushing in the high numbers with a low time. im really wanting to get into the 11's, but i also have to have streetable car. it is a dd but **** i can handle the gas and power and the lovely noise but can the car handle it daily? suggestions on other cams ive heard alot on tsp cams but im not sure what i should do. i was also debating on having speed incorporated custom grind a shaft.. suggestions?
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Custom 228/232 on a 109+2, X-ER lobes. 3200ish stall. Comp 918 valve springs. sticky tires, tune. With bolt ons (long tubes, ls6 intake. lid, ory, catback..) you can hit 11's. Will have gobs of torque down low, and you won't have to spin it too high. Fits under stock heads eaily.
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would a 231 237 cam fit under stock heads? how much do ls6 heads cost? is it worth it to buy ls6 heads?Comp 918 valve springs would these work? how bad will gas milage be with this size cam? 3600 stall is what im planning on. the vig 3500 which is a rated at 3600/3700. anything else?



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