WS6ForLife

Hey guys, I'm looking to buy a 98-02 WS6 here in the next couple of months, and am really thinking about an auto. I've drove six speeds before in both LT1 and the LS1 cars, and enjoy them, but for in town driving, the constant shifting just gets anoying to me.But, anyways, what are some of the pros and cons to them street racing wise vs. M6's. I know with a descent stall they can beet an M6 of the line, but what about top end speeds and such. Just wanna hear some of your guys's opinions. Thanks.

james562

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You can throw a big stall and some Drag radials on it and knock about .8-1.0 off your ET pretty simply. Also A4's seem to have the stock rear last pretty long at least from what I have seen.

streetassasin

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Im an auto guy, quicker in the 1/4 and you can still use the console cup holder or roadhead with out having to shift

jessedale98

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there really arent many cons to an A4, i guess you dont dyno as high as a M6

Zeke34

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I've owned both and these are my pros and cons.
M6 Pros: They're fun to have when you're racing or just want to down shift and get through traffic.
M6 Cons: My left calf is bigger than my right because of stop and go traffic.
A4 Pros: They're great to have while in stop and go traffic + can be just as fun as an M6 once you throw in a stall.
A4 Cons: I hate how if falls on it's face when you're in OD and try to get on it.

just my two Abraham Lincolns...

darrensls1

Pros:

Easier to drive in traffic.
Easier on the 10 bolt rear end.
Quicker in the 1/4 mile with a good stall.
Professional shifter on EVERY shift.

Cons:

Needs to be built to handle anything beyond bolt ons.
Has dead spot.
Gets less MPG then manuals.
Dynos less then manuals.

alamantia

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Cons: Who wants an Auto Muscle car?

jessedale98

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^^^^^ haha, gee let me think.


heres why i wanted one.

Stall,Gears,Lid,Lt's and i ran 12.2 @ 110 with a 1.65 60ft.

Remember this, on the track its A4>M6 FTFW

IZRED

[QUOTE=alamantia;8301677]Cons: Who wants an Auto Muscle car? There's a lot of muscle cars with autos that I'll take in a heartbeat. A 1970 Chevelle SS for instance.

98Z28MASS

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I have driven both, and both are fun. Stock the a4 tranny isnt that exciting, but toss in a 3500+ rpm stall with some decent tires and it will def wake the car up. Cons to that is that you will need to get a tranny cooler as well and as someone else said it will go quickly once you start adding additional power. M6 is def fun as hell, but if it is a daily driver and you see lots of traffic then it will get bothersome after a while. My z28 was an m6 and it was great until I finished grad school and started working full time and commuted with it during the spring/summer/fall seasons and had to deal with fairly heavy traffic. If I were to make a choice it would be based on its purpose. Daily Driver with moderate to heavy traffic = A4, weekend cruiser/not much duty as daily driver = M6

aequitas

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as to the con of having a dead spot...I have a 4k stall and even when its locked up in OD if you just tap the throttle it unlocks and flashes so I have no dead spots. If you go with a good size stall you wont have dead spots

Zeke34

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I'll take an old school muscle car with an automatic but as for modern times, I'd prefer a manual tranny but wouldn't pass up a stalled auto...

darrensls1

Stalls don't completely eliminate dead spots. It takes a big stall + gears and even then you're compromising streetable and MPG in order to not have any sign of a dead spot. Pick your poison.

I can say from my car that the dead spot is 75% better since the addition of my 3500 stall. But I would be lying if I said it was gone. 30 mph still feels noticeably stronger then 35 does. It's nowhere near as bad as it was before but I can still feel it.

darrensls1

Let me see. Here is the time in your sig:

12.76@110.7 on street tires (1.88 60')

And here is the time in my sig:

Current best = 12.3 @ 109 on a 1.65 60'

So to answer your question. Me.

alamantia

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And my time driving our AUTOMATIC drag car is 6.42 @ 231 watch if you like. http://video.godragracing.com/etown/...hp?video=POE_2
I'll race you any day. But I would never drive a automatic muscle car unless it had a screw blower. To each his own but i find it god dam depressing seeing a nice classic muscle car like a 1970 chevelle and seeing an auto in it, its like the guy who owns it boughtit for his wife.

408z28

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T56
(Pros)- THINKING your making the car faster by slamming gears as hard as you can!
- 1-2 mpg better gas milage (on the highway @ 80 mph)
- easier to pull out once you've broke it.

(cons)- Clutches cost more than a stall (good clutches)
- If you make over 400 rwhp you'll replace a clutch about every 12-14,000 miles.
- Inconsistant as hell @ the track
- beats the **** out of a stock 10 bolt (replace several 10 bolts)
- TRACTION
- Traffic jams, stoplight to stoplight, and city driving wears out your left calf
- Getting road head is impossible.

AUTO
(pro's) - faster @ the track and on the street. YES, I SAID STREET TOO!
- easier on parts
- I still haven't found a "dead spot" in an f-body. If your racing in OVERDRIVE
your a moron anyway! Thats your "dead spot".
- more comfortable to drive everyday traffic
- Big stalls rule all! 99% of single digit cars are stalled autos.
- all the idiots who want to race you will underestimate your car.
- road head is easily obtainable!!

(con's)- You cant do that really cool "ricer rev" without shifting into neutral.
- ???

Ive had 3 t-56 f-bodies and about 10 autos. I can honestly say the stalled autos are more fun, and quicker. But Its all about what YOU want, your the one that has to drive it.

craz28

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That's one of the reasons I am still on my auto! lol

408z28

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in a auto....you can get road head AND race at the same time. Now.. If thats not a man's car than I don't know what is!!!

RPM WS6

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Well, since you started the mud slinging, I might as well sling back a bit.

Why would anyone want an M6 when they suck so much?

I’m all about the auto; muscle car, daily driver, or anything else.

I find it depressing when I locate a really nice car I'd like to buy, but it's got a damn M4/M5/M6. I wish more of them had autos.

I've always obtained my best times drag racing while keeping the shifter in OD.

Just because the shifter is in OD doesn't mean you're racing in OD. If you're at WOT, OD won't engage until after 130mph (with 3.23s) or even higher with 2.73s. And from a roll, if you're already in OD, the trans will downshift back to 1st, 2nd or 3rd depending on your speed.

JohnnyC

These auto vs. manual threads always end up in the crapper. This will most likely be locked before the weekend after all of the childish opinions are posted (autos are for girls, M6 is for real cars, A4 best at the track, ect.).