Paranoid to go over 5000 rpms
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So my motor is bone stock with almost 160k miles now. Thanks to the first owner, about 3/4 of the miles were highway miles.
Because the engine has a lot of miles, I've never pushed it over 5000 rpms yet in fear of bending a pushrod or something. Should I keep doing what I'm doing or am I just being too paranoid?
Because the engine has a lot of miles, I've never pushed it over 5000 rpms yet in fear of bending a pushrod or something. Should I keep doing what I'm doing or am I just being too paranoid?
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if it's your DD i can understand why you don't want to push it too hard, but i think it can still handle a burst up to 5500 rpm on occasion. i mean why else would you buy a LS1 Camaro?
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If I recall correctly, factory PCM tune rev limiter is 6200. That means that GM built the motors to be utterly reliable up to that RPM (plus probably a little higher, safety margin you know). They put it @ 6200 because the engineers said something like "we gotta protect the motor against missed shifts and whatever else a regular joe (or regular dumbass) is going to throw at it".
If your motor has been cared for with regular oil changes, not beat on mercilessly, and everything is healthy like you still have proper valvetrain alignment, I think the mileage really shouldn't have you on pins and needles.
If your car is an M6, there's the possibility of some over revs in it's past. (You can have a mechanical over rev on an improper downshift). If it's an A4 and PCM has not been touched, it's probably never seen higher than 6200 it's whole life.
If your motor has been cared for with regular oil changes, not beat on mercilessly, and everything is healthy like you still have proper valvetrain alignment, I think the mileage really shouldn't have you on pins and needles.
If your car is an M6, there's the possibility of some over revs in it's past. (You can have a mechanical over rev on an improper downshift). If it's an A4 and PCM has not been touched, it's probably never seen higher than 6200 it's whole life.
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TWS, GM did build these engines with a factor of safety, but, I would be cautious on the revving. If the car has never been beaten on, it might have the wear patterns without the extended streching of the components. But, I guess if it was mine, I wouldn't let it bother me. I have done durability testing with GM and these new engines are way more robust than the old gen 1 or 2's.
So, go out and have fun. Like ads 99ta said, that's why you bought it, right?
So, go out and have fun. Like ads 99ta said, that's why you bought it, right?
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Don't push it over red-line with that many miles, but I think 5k is a little low to be shifting. You should easily be able to take it higher IMO without any problems. Have you owned the car for long? If not, just replace every fluid, run seafoam through it, and take car of it. You should be able to get quite a few more miles before having anything major go wrong with it.
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like what was already said, if you have good oil pressure and regular oil changes you should be in good shape. big things that can hurt a high mile engine is lugging it (or putting the engine under heavy load), smacking the limiter and gearing down. as well as free revving (revving in neutral). also, watch for over heating as well. on a cold morning, i would even let the motor build a little heat before driving.
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TWS, GM did build these engines with a factor of safety, but, I would be cautious on the revving. If the car has never been beaten on, it might have the wear patterns without the extended streching of the components. But, I guess if it was mine, I wouldn't let it bother me. I have done durability testing with GM and these new engines are way more robust than the old gen 1 or 2's.
So, go out and have fun. Like ads 99ta said, that's why you bought it, right?
So, go out and have fun. Like ads 99ta said, that's why you bought it, right?
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if its got good oil pressure the only thing to worry about really are if the valve springs are original. if they are they could be weak and bringing it up to the rev limiter could cause a little valve float but otherwise go for it i mean come on, if an engine is cared for i doubt anyone on this forum could tell the difference between the internals between an engine that has 80,000 or 160,000 miles on it. Run it!! whats the point of having the car if your not even going to run it to what its capable of
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Originally Posted by LSXNV
big things that can hurt a high mile engine is lugging it (or putting the engine under heavy load)
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TWS, GM did build these engines with a factor of safety, but, I would be cautious on the revving. If the car has never been beaten on, it might have the wear patterns without the extended streching of the components. But, I guess if it was mine, I wouldn't let it bother me. I have done durability testing with GM and these new engines are way more robust than the old gen 1 or 2's.
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like what was already said, if you have good oil pressure and regular oil changes you should be in good shape. big things that can hurt a high mile engine is lugging it (or putting the engine under heavy load), smacking the limiter and gearing down. as well as free revving (revving in neutral). also, watch for over heating as well. on a cold morning, i would even let the motor build a little heat before driving.