Gearhead247

my buddy has a '97 camaro with a wheezy 3.8 & a slushbox. his step dad just bought an '08 c6 (also packing a manumatic slushbox)

the plan is to buy either an ls1 or ls2/6speed/rear gears.

the questions:
a '98 LS1 with LS6 heads should work, because it needs pistons & valvetrain.
would the 4l60e hold that much power with a 3500 stall? T56? or to start with an LS2?

any major problems stuffing an LS engine into a '97 camaro? he's jealous of my carb'd ease, thinks he can do better with EFI, probably a mega squirt or something equivalent.

thanks,
Casey

peter griffin

Expect to lose.

dimedsbc

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ya. . .

99345hp

^^^exactly, that wont be enough to take a c6. You will need some serious horsepower to keep up with that car.

BobDoLe

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the 4l60E is pretty weak, but it will probably hold long enough for your buddy to embarass his step dad.
you'll not only need that 3500 stall with tires, but a nice shot of nitrous.

hell, give the 3800 enough nitrous (it loves it - just make sure to give it enough fuel) with the stall and tires... you might have a chance if the step dad can't drive. then if you blow the motor with all that nitrous, you can do your ls1 swap.

a 97 v6 firebird ran 12.168@108.83 with just nitrous, tires (and a lot of weight reduction).

http://forum.camarov6.com/timeslips.php?

00transamnh

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First off... there is a ton of problems with dropping a ls motor in a V6 fbody (you probibly dont have the time, money, or knowhow to pull it off)...

But then again i have no idea about any of those things. Most people will tell you, you are better off to just buy an ls1 fbod and call it a day.

Oh, and not to mention after the many hours of work, and the thousands of dollars pissed down the drain....






Youll still lose (badly)

wabmorgan

Lost cause.

ophee

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That's sorta biting off a bit more than you can chew.... To be realistic. But, shoot for the stars, why not.

the_merv

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With a stock LS1..you will lose. Even with boltons, you will lose. You need some **** done to it to win against a C6, expecially the LS3. I got one a couple of months ago..made the owner look at me like WTF.. lol


It's not that bad really..I've helped with one..

The LS1 came with the K-Member/Steering Rack, Harness/PCM, and the Trans.

I used GM All Data to match the wiring and we got it in.

I got my 402 Stroker in my '95 Z..then again I started with a LT1 and the V8 wiring..the V6 Wiring is not that much different than the V8 wiring though..

T/AWS6969

get an ls7 or a Procharger!!!!

DVS99TRANS

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To beat a LS2 C6 with an LS1 you'll need longtubes and gears at the minimal to beat him. With an LS3 you'll need a medium cam to teach him a lesson if he is "stock". The t56 is a good way to go, but would also say just get a Formula, TA, Z28, or SS which will cost you just as much if not cheaper in the long run and everything needed is already there other than the aftermarket stuff of course

Smokin00WS6

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First off, the 08's dont have a slushbox for a tranny, they have been revised and are sharp shifting trannys. So dont hate on the fact its a manumatic. Go drive an 08 with a manu....you will be surprised.

Your going to need at least 450 crank HP to hang with the 08. I say that because most LS3's are making around 435 at the crank and weigh less with better aero.

Good Luck.

406malibu

+1

its going to take no less than 450 to come close to keeping up, and id say 500 crank would be better. the LS3 C6 is no joke.

landonew

most of yall are way off. I put down decent numbers NA and lost to an ls3 c6. They are essentially as quick (maybe 1/2 car behind) an c6z06. Unless you have aftermarket heads and a decent sized cam expect to lose and expect to lose bad.

johnLs1camaro

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get you a bolt on ls1 and a 200 wet shot and you should be ok til you run out of spray

Smokin00WS6

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Amen

Amen

slowjoe99

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no... that won't work. just swapping with LS6 heads is still not going to be close to the C6. I have the MS3 cam, CNC ported LS6 heads, and LS6 intake on my LS1 and a 3500 SSF stall. the transmission was fine and no slipping. I only have about 1k miles on it so far though. but if you start making bigger power, the transmission will need to be built for it too.

the_merv

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Get an Iron 6.0l..stroke it, then get some decent Heads, nice big Cam and a good Tune, and a good Tranny to back it and pray your 10-bolt holds together, then you'll smoke his ***..

Captain_Stabbin

or just buy a c6z06

JTelesone

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what kind of race????? from a dig you can do wonders with less power with the right trans/ stall/ gears/ bolt on combo. that said, even through a good auto setup from a dig and some good tires you can make it happen with 370ish wheel, but the car wont be really "faster", it will just get down the 1/4 quicker. if your going from a roll or highway pulls your gonna need a full 390-400 wheel which means a h/c combo. my car makes 352rwhp/372 torque, and weights less than my friends c6. from a dig its anyones race with decent tires for both of us, on the freeway i jump ahead but he starts pulling back in getting into 5th gear. and my car weights under 3200lbs.

long story short your gonna need over 400 wheel to run with that car.

and a ls3 c6 still does not come close to a c6zoh of any year. even when my roomates 07z was stock with just a tune it pulled on 08s badly. they are good for a low 120mph 1/4 at best, not low 130's