Could this be a direct result in my motor destorying itself
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I saw the car in late september or so after it was tuned. It ran like garbage. Your issue is probably in the tune.
I was told it had TCS...I assumed it did because no one in their right mind would be getting on and off the throttle/kit like you did in that video.
Weird how you pedaled the car on nitrous with a shitty tune, and it took out a rod bearing....
Why did a heads/cam car with a 150 shot bog on the street?
I was told it had TCS...I assumed it did because no one in their right mind would be getting on and off the throttle/kit like you did in that video.
Weird how you pedaled the car on nitrous with a shitty tune, and it took out a rod bearing....
Why did a heads/cam car with a 150 shot bog on the street?
like i told crazy d. no matter if that was a direct cause or one of the causes, it for sure was a major cause to the problem which he could of avoided by checking and making sure no wires were pinched,.. we can go on and on about this but the outcome will always be the same, a bike guy shouldnt be touching cars when he has to clue what he is doing,, and thats a fact and its just been a proven fact..
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If the knock sensor went out it just wouldnt pull timing AFTER a problem had started, so, probably not. The knock was caused by a problem either with your motor, tune, or system. I dont see the timing being advanced because of a failed KM, although i'm definatly not an expert in tuning. Did you have a tune done, and did you pull any timing for that shot of n2o?
do you know what knock sensors do? they pull out timing if you didnt know,, if they are not working obviously timing is not getting pulled out and on motor it would be fine but you add nitrous to it and there goes the motor.. i offered crazy d a bet, we can test it on my car if you want to make a 10k bet,, i will make a single digit pass with the knock sensors working without a problem, then i will let you unplug the knock sensors and we will make the same pass and see if the motor doesnt blow up,, care to make that bet?
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here there is no point of going back and forth,, crazy d,,. you are blaming it on the tune or build and thats bullshit,. you dont want me to start, you worked for me how long? 2 weeks, and then when you cross threaded the brakes line to the abs unit and told me other mechanic that it was ok i couldnt have such a **** up at my shop.. so dont even go there about a build.. You FUCKED up and didnt put the 2 bolts on because they were hard to get to and didnt look if there was any wires pinched either,, which any decent mechanic would look for to make sure ... you said the knock sensors will not make the car blow up, i will take that bet today,, my ss is still today and i will disconnect the knock sensors in from of you and we will spray it.. if the motor blows up you owe me a new motor , if it doesn't me and kyle will make a apology on here.. ARE YOU READY TO PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS? TODAYYYYYY..BRING 10K CASH WITH YOU BECAUSE I WILL BET IT WILL BLOW UP..
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dan are you serious? i thought you were more of a man then this, i guess i was wrong about you... **** the lawyer, we will get his car out again, but everyone that knows us and you will know how much of a man you are.. have a good one bro,.. say hi to hp from all of us..
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Mario the lies keep spewing eh? WHatever man. If your boy wants money then I suggest he retains a lawyer. Then we will see what a judge has to say about this whole situation. And you HAVE to be kidding me that you uys built that motor in the dust bowl you call a shop. Maybe that was the problem debris in the bearings? Any proffesional shop that I have been to has a dedicated CLEAN room forsuch an operation. Where is yours at again by the front overhead door? Along with all the painting and bodywork you do in there?
dude i will put together a motor in the sand better then you will ever do one in a dedicated room..
,, you might know stuff about bikes, but then again you were scared to race boost12 and dustin,, but you for sure dont know **** about cars..and should stay the **** away from there as far as possible..
keep striping brakes lines and saying they will be fine, wait until someone kills themselves because they cant stop because of your **** up..
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And again what does racing have to do with this thread? I beleive the topic is why Kyles motor took a dump not racing. Way to stay on topic.
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yes you fucked up by not putting 2 bolts on the bell housing because you were too lazy to take your time and you pinched the knock sensor wires as seen in the pics,, have a good day dan..
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Oh yeah and for everyone that would like to see when the car blew up here is the video. Its the second pass.
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/W...ago_207360.htm
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/W...ago_207360.htm
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Oh yeah and for everyone that would like to see when the car blew up here is the video. Its the second pass.
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/W...ago_207360.htm
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/W...ago_207360.htm
let them see when it blew up,, thats good,first pass on motor ,second on spray and sprayed it 200 ft out., but what does that have to do with you not putting bolts in or pinching wires,, do we still have the bet you agreed to with me disconnecting my knock sensor and you paying me for a new motor or you gonna back out of it?
THE FACT IS YOU DIDNT PUT 2 BELLHOUSING BOLTS IN AND PINCHED THE KNOCK SENSOR HARNESS..
The reason your motor blew... would be from what i've read in here a shitty tune, and driving it home when it started knocking. No point in the bitch fest keyboard warriors. /thread
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You can smash the wires and still have connectivity in them. I am 99% sure there would have been a ses light if they had actually been severed. Also, this sounds like a nitrous tune-up/ecu tune issues to begin with. Playing with nitrous is just like playing with fire, always remember that.
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Just saw this thread and I gotta say a couple things......leaving bolts out and pinching wires is fucked up...whoever did it. That would flag a code (where the hell is the tuner) and while -2deg timing is "ok" for a 150shot it is by no means safe, and it will not pull timing because the pcm will never "hear" anything. (where is the tuner) Why would u drive a car w/ a spun rod bearing knocking? (where are the drivers brains?) And for the people who think stock bottom ends are junk, there are plenty stock-bottom LSx motors making 800hp and driving daily w/ no issues.......u need a good tune and common sense (it helps to have all the bolts and no pinched knock sensor wires).
From here u gonna have more he said she said bullshit....just don't be the "she"
I say fix it and get on w/ life, there's racin' thats got to be done
From here u gonna have more he said she said bullshit....just don't be the "she"
I say fix it and get on w/ life, there's racin' thats got to be done
Since most of the posts are impossible to comprehend, I'm going by the pictures posted, and will assume you had weak connecting rods. On The Tree
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Just saw this thread and I gotta say a couple things......leaving bolts out and pinching wires is fucked up...whoever did it. That would flag a code (where the hell is the tuner) and while -2deg timing is "ok" for a 150shot it is by no means safe, and it will not pull timing because the pcm will never "hear" anything. (where is the tuner) Why would u drive a car w/ a spun rod bearing knocking? (where are the drivers brains?) And for the people who think stock bottom ends are junk, there are plenty stock-bottom LSx motors making 800hp and driving daily w/ no issues.......u need a good tune and common sense (it helps to have all the bolts and no pinched knock sensor wires).
From here u gonna have more he said she said bullshit....just don't be the "she"
I say fix it and get on w/ life, there's racin' thats got to be done
From here u gonna have more he said she said bullshit....just don't be the "she"
I say fix it and get on w/ life, there's racin' thats got to be done
so its all done and over with, bottom line is the job wasnt done right , plane and simple, and the guy asked for him money back on the converter install and crazy d started back pedaling,, caves paid 250 for a converter install which i thought was nuts in the first place but its his money and all he wanted was 200 back so he can put that towards a new oil pan,and crazy d being or trying to be a business man should of done that and this would of all been avoided..
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You can smash the wires and still have connectivity in them. I am 99% sure there would have been a ses light if they had actually been severed. Also, this sounds like a nitrous tune-up/ecu tune issues to begin with. Playing with nitrous is just like playing with fire, always remember that.
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who cares about the grammer,, let me put it to you in a easy term so you would understand.. missing 2 bell housing bolts and knock sensor harness pinched,, would you call that a professional job or not?
If you are relying on knock sensors to pull timing when you spray you are a ******* retard.
Knock sensors also require two test cycles before a code will set. So unplugging the sensors and cranking the car will not set a MIL.
Knock sensors also require two test cycles before a code will set. So unplugging the sensors and cranking the car will not set a MIL.
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The issue here Mario again stay on topic was. Is this the direct result of my engine failure. hence it is not. Again the job was done 2 months prior to the customer blowing up his car. Then you all waited what another 4 months to pull the motor. How do I know that nothing was tampered with. Think about this Mario. You would be reacting the same way if it was you. Quit trying to push the blame for what happened on someone else. If I remember right that night on the phone you were pissed because Kyle wasn't supposed to even spray that motor. Matter of fact Mark had you on speaker phone. So like many others have said in here the knock sensor was NOT the culprit. As for the pinched wire would you like me to buy you a roll of solder so you can fix it?
