Wasn't this thread started to find out if a pinched knock sensor harness can cause a motor to blow? Everyone is pretty much saying the same thing>>>>>>>tune/driving with knock. There you go, you had a shitty tune and your dumbass drove while it was knocking.

Why does crawlinlt1camaro keep bringing up the shitty job on the trans? Yes he did a bad job re-installing it but that wasn't the cause(point of thread) of the blown motor. Get over it. Your friend wants a refund for a pinched harness? A pinched harness can be fixed. Start a thread about Crazy D and the shitty job he did in your regional section, warn people about his work and bitch all you want.









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you are the ******* retard, if its tuned right and jetted right with the right fuel you dont even have to have much timing pulled out, therefore if there is little inperfection knock sensors will help you save the motor.. if you dont think so you are a ******* idiot.. ive been spraying cars since lt1's came out and since 98 ls1's came out,, we had a 98 ls1 in 98 runing 1040s all day with stock converter, stock ported heads, 410 gear and some spray.. and since then we had alot of single digit cars with stock bottom ends, so you coming on here saying people are idiots when using knock sensors is a ******* stupid comment,, in 98-99 they didnt have **** for ls1's and people were doing fine.. i got a news flash for you, you dont need a lsx block and a 400 plus cube motor with some big afr heads and spray to go into single digits, we have been doing it for years with stock ported heads and a stock bottom end and in full weight cars.. if you dont think so,, bring out any ls1 with a stock bottom end full weight on spray and i will run it head up for couple thousand, ill even leave my tv on with the a/c blowing cold..

 

^^^^ good for you

 

then you dont remember correctly because im the one that gave him the bottle and a gallon of vht to go out there.. who gives a **** when the motor was pulled, did he fuckign drive it since it broke? no it was sittign in front of my shop. you know damn well i got other **** to do and im not going to drop everything to pull his motor out since he was saving for a new motor anyway, so give even give me that bullshit.. the motor was out when i had time to pull it out and thats it..

**** you solder, you can shove it up your ***.. you fucked up plain and simple... the thing is he should of waited a week or so to get the converter in and it would of been put in the right way, instead he rushed and took it to you to **** it up..

 

He may have done a shitty job on the trans install but didn't cause the motor to blow..... Your friend drove the car while it was knocking. His fault.

stay on topic

 

Sounds like there was a LARGE imperfection then if your knock sensor theory is correct.

FACT... knock sensors where not designed to pull timing when you are using power adders such as nitrous or forced induction. The cylinder pressures are much higher than they would be in a stock application as designed. The margane for error is much smaller. The one time you get detonation may be all it takes to trash your motor. I think you have a good example of that on your hands.

 

Like I said and this is it on the subject. Say what you will but I am damn sure that I did NOT pinch that harness. Hacking peoples stuff up is NOT my forte. Mark has had work done by me (trans install) and there were no problems with my craftsmanship. I have done a lot of work on f bodies and mustangs and pretty much anything else that has wheels. never once have I had a comeback. I guess my service record speaks for itself. Mario again just STOP with all the slandering there is no need for it. I have given Kyle my number. He knows how to dial it. Quit tryin to start drama it seems that you are good at that.

 

you know what dan, **** you,, you are a piece of ****.. i dont give 2 ***** because im not getting a penny out of this, but for you to come on here and say the wires were not pinched is bullshit, you are a true piece of ****,.. now its not even about why the motor blew, now its about you being a fuckign liar and a hack.. when u started working at my shop you even said yourself you didnt know **** about fbodies, so working at my shop for 2 weeks made you a expert in fbodies,, dude go **** yourself im done, regardless what happened to the motor, you still did a fucked up job on it and thats a FACT.. YOU **** YOU DAN.. NEXT THING YOU WILL SAY YOU DIDNT SAY THAT YOU CROSS THREADED THE BRAKES LINES IN A LS1 YOU WERE WORKING ON AT MY SHOP AND TOLD ONE OF THE GUYS IT WILL BE FINE RIGHT? DUDE YOU ARE A ******* LIAR.. **** YOU..

 

he may nothing , he did.. And it had a big part of blowing the motor and thats a fact too.. IT WAS HIS FAULT FOR DRIVING IT, BUT IT WASNT HIS FAULT FOR THE GUY PINCHING THE WIRES AND NOT PUTTING ALL THE BOLTS IN,,

 

Jesus i hope i never have to get my car worked on in chicago, great people, great attitudes, very professional, lol

 

yes great people ,fast cars, great attitudes and most know what they are doing, but some dont.. but we got hondas on hp that drive to work everyday and are faster then 12.60s

 

Dude how the hell did the harness get in there? Why were bolts missing? You were the last one with the trans out..!!

You did a bad job end of story. I think they deserve some compensation for the shitty job. People make mistakes it takes a man to own up to them. Had the motor not blown up and they found the mistake I would expect you to still refund something.

I don't think your responsible for the motor however.


And no offense crawlinlt1 & caves but didn't you know about the stripped out brake job BEFORE he did the converter swap?

You gotta pay to play mistakes happen and in the end the OWNER is responsible for making sure everything is absolutely right. If you want to know its done right do it yourself. Were not talking about brand new unmodified cars getting work done at a stealership. Were talking about modified cars running a power adder it was never intended to run and your taking it to a guy that DOESN'T GUARANTEE HIS WORK that you KNEW screwed up something else?

 

If you think this is bad stay away from the Chitown, you wouldnt enjoy it at all. May even hurt your feelings.

 

thats exactly what i told him, i said caves doesnt want any money from crady d's pocket. all he wanted was 200 out of 250 back for a shitty job done and that would of been end of story,, yet he blew it out of proportion.. yes i did know about the stripped brake line thats why he isnt working for me anymore.. i didnt even know that he took his car there to get the converter done until a while afterwards,, we were going to do it at my shop but i was crazy busy and told him he had to wait, but caves wanted it done right away so he took it to crazy d.. crazy d wasnt a bad guy, well i thought he wasnt, well besides a lie here and there but now i know exactly how he is.. its no big deal because the 200 isnt going to save caves,, but it would of been the right thing to do, how can you get paid for a screwed up job you did, you see what im saying? if i did that, which id be way too smart to do because i always double check and make sure there is nothing pinched there, i would of gave him the money he paid me to do the job and said sorry we all make mistakes and that would of been it, but i guess not all people are like me..

 

It was just a question dude, calm down. I just asked if it was stock internals, thats it...

 

crawlinlt1camaro you are way off topic, and you are an internet hardass out looking for a fight. Do us all a favor and just stay out of this thread, before you are banned. And if you are relying on knock sensors to pull timing for 200+ shots you are an idiot. And anybody will tell you that.

 

There are a lot of ignorant mother ******* in this thread. I vot that it gets deleted. Big waste of space IMO.

 

Relying on the knock sensor for anything is stupid. It's good for a stock motor that's daily driven....Not to pull timing on a 150 shot heads/cam car. That's why it broke.

I heard the car AFTER it was tuned...At your shop that one night Mario. Because I remember asking people caves knew, and they said it had been tuned. It runs like garbage plain and simple. If my car ran like that, I wouldn't drive it around the block let alone spray it.

You beat on the car and sprayed it for two months after crazy D finished it, and THEN it broke. That doesn't make sense that you beat on it for 2 months, spray it, and it never throws a code if these knock sensors are shorted. Maybe they were pinched in there...But they most likely weren't shorted.

Whether or not the bolts were missing and the harness was pinched....Who knows. You really gotta TRY to **** up that bad and not notice.

Mario, you know I don't have any problems with you....But there's been quite a few times where "Mario" "Nitrous" "tune" and "blown up" appear in the same sentence.

I think you guys should just let it be. It's his word against caves. I don't know Dan or his work THAT well...So it could have been wrong. But I also wouldn't be shocked if maybe a few bolts were removed and the harness was stuffed in there when you pulled the motor to get that glamorous picture.

 

So quit bitchin on a forum.

 

Bingo! this is the least usefull thread on here. i have not read a single inteligent statment in this thread yet. knock sensors are a joke they will not save your motor. and -2 is not enough for a 150 shot. leaving out the top bolts is due to lazyness . either way theres a shitload of clowns in this thread!