Could this be a direct result in my motor destorying itself
you are the ******* retard, if its tuned right and jetted right with the right fuel you dont even have to have much timing pulled out, therefore if there is little inperfection knock sensors will help you save the motor.. if you dont think so you are a ******* idiot.. ive been spraying cars since lt1's came out and since 98 ls1's came out,, we had a 98 ls1 in 98 runing 1040s all day with stock converter, stock ported heads, 410 gear and some spray.. and since then we had alot of single digit cars with stock bottom ends, so you coming on here saying people are idiots when using knock sensors is a ******* stupid comment,, in 98-99 they didnt have **** for ls1's and people were doing fine.. i got a news flash for you, you dont need a lsx block and a 400 plus cube motor with some big afr heads and spray to go into single digits, we have been doing it for years with stock ported heads and a stock bottom end and in full weight cars.. if you dont think so,, bring out any ls1 with a stock bottom end full weight on spray and i will run it head up for couple thousand, ill even leave my tv on with the a/c blowing cold..
BTW stock ported heades going 10.4 is a joke...
Yes he does. Everyone else who has been spraying for decades are just a ..... Wait, There it is, F**king Id**ts 
And just an FYI on the "ac blowing cold"...... Your AC compressor shuts off when you go WOT, so leaving it on will do nothing to effect performance
And just an FYI on the "ac blowing cold"...... Your AC compressor shuts off when you go WOT, so leaving it on will do nothing to effect performance
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Just for the record all of the bolts were installed and tightened before leaving my shop. I would NEVER in a million years send a car out that had missing bolts. Nor am i too lazy to install them. I used to R&R transmissions for a living so I do have all the goodies that make it that much easier. I guess from now on I will have to video tape and/or take photos of everything to prove that my work was done properly.
The fact is whether it be crazy d, the owner of the car, or any other shop, whoever installed it last is a hack. They didn't back out, they where not installed out of laziness; I know for a fact I build race cars for a living and I hit the bellhousing bolts with impacts too...never had one back out. furthermore Ive taken my knock sensors out all together... Its all in the tune.
Not to be an ***, but why are you using an impact to drive a transmission in? Aluminum block + good impact = stripped holes in the block. Did you torque the bellhousing to 35lb ft?
http://ls1howto.com/index.php?category=1
A guide to properly torquing bolts
http://ls1howto.com/index.php?category=1
A guide to properly torquing bolts
I do it for a living. We have to torque everybolt
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I call BS on that. My father just retired(after being struck by lightning) and he was ASE mastertech etc etc etc. Only thing he used a torque wrench on is engine and tranny parts and torque to yield parts. Stuff that just bolts. Stuff that is only crucial to clearances.
Ive got him outta that stage now lol
"You dont have time to do that **** on commission, and you dont have time for comebacks"
Ive got him outta that stage now lol
"You dont have time to do that **** on commission, and you dont have time for comebacks"
I call BS on that. My father just retired(after being struck by lightning) and he was ASE mastertech etc etc etc. Only thing he used a torque wrench on is engine and tranny parts and torque to yield parts. Stuff that just bolts. Stuff that is only crucial to clearances.
Ive got him outta that stage now lol
"You dont have time to do that **** on commission, and you dont have time for comebacks"
Ive got him outta that stage now lol
"You dont have time to do that **** on commission, and you dont have time for comebacks"
Im saying its simple. and very doable. I did it back in 01 with ported 853's on a 150 shot with mac headers and a 224 cam way before people could actually tune and good parts were out. We put a stock ported 853 car to 9.8 with 120K miles @ 3500 lbs. with a 225 shot on a small budget.
you are the ******* retard, if its tuned right and jetted right with the right fuel you dont even have to have much timing pulled out, therefore if there is little inperfection knock sensors will help you save the motor.. if you dont think so you are a ******* idiot.. ive been spraying cars since lt1's came out and since 98 ls1's came out,, we had a 98 ls1 in 98 runing 1040s all day with stock converter, stock ported heads, 410 gear and some spray.. and since then we had alot of single digit cars with stock bottom ends, so you coming on here saying people are idiots when using knock sensors is a ******* stupid comment,, in 98-99 they didnt have **** for ls1's and people were doing fine.. i got a news flash for you, you dont need a lsx block and a 400 plus cube motor with some big afr heads and spray to go into single digits, we have been doing it for years with stock ported heads and a stock bottom end and in full weight cars.. if you dont think so,, bring out any ls1 with a stock bottom end full weight on spray and i will run it head up for couple thousand, ill even leave my tv on with the a/c blowing cold..
Who tuned the car? Sorry if you said it but damn it's like reading a bitching contest between a bunch of third graders.
How hard is this to understand? I mean really...it's this simple:
SHITTY TUNE+SPRAY+BEAT THE **** OUT OF IT = YOU AND YOU ONLY FUCKED UP YOUR CAR.
Say bye now.
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Whatever im done with all of this i have witnesses that were at the shop the time the motor and trans was pulled the bolts and wire was missing, i live in an apartment and have no access to tools, and third i think all of you would have drove your car out of a bad south side chicago area if it was your last resort. Either way i will no longer send anyone to crazy D, and suggest to anyone i talk to stay away, and my car will be back out again this summer racing...
no I think most of us would have called a tow truck at least. And if you didnt hav the money for it then you shouldnt have been at the track racing your car in the first place...everyone knows track+hard driving=broke **** everyonce in a while you should have been more prepared.
no I think most of us would have called a tow truck at least. And if you didnt hav the money for it then you shouldnt have been at the track racing your car in the first place...everyone knows track+hard driving=broke **** everyonce in a while you should have been more prepared.
No, I'm pretty sure I'd just drive it home and lick my wounds instead of hanging out by the hood. haha
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Whatever im done with all of this i have witnesses that were at the shop the time the motor and trans was pulled the bolts and wire was missing, i live in an apartment and have no access to tools, and third i think all of you would have drove your car out of a bad south side chicago area if it was your last resort. Either way i will no longer send anyone to crazy D, and suggest to anyone i talk to stay away, and my car will be back out again this summer racing...
BTW I showed Lee from Van Senus the pics you posted and uhm even he says that it would take work to get that harness pinched in there. Its a pretty thick harness so. So something is fishy man sorry. But if it smells like sh** and looks like sh** usually it is. Again I am sorry that you were not happy with the work that I didi for you. I guess you can make some of the people happy some of the time but not all the people happy all of the time.
Well in my area of parts/shops All shops use impacts on almost everything, not a problem, also the knock sensor was not your problem and a trouble code would of been showing, this is why most shops will not do installs on performance stuff and its a shame. Bottom line the motor was gonna give from the start or the tune was no good. Either way sorry for your lost motor, Time to go bigger, badder, and well stronger