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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 07:54 AM
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Nice LOL. Actually it was a 63 nitrous jet I had in the car, but I think a little boost in the bottle pressure might make up for that

The weight sounds good, I can stop spending $ on LW **** right now cause with the hatch and rear window alone I'm under the weight limit. Guess I can add a fire system and a parachute as a couple good idea safety items to get the weight back up, better that stuff then a box with lead shot in it.

If they're gonna limit it that way though, I'm putting my 4.10 gears back in the car, and just get that intake swap done, maybe get a vacum pump on the car, but honestly that crap wouldnt' be enough to get me close to the motor hp you'll be making this year I'm sure. Your heads are probably 75 hp more then mine.
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 08:29 AM
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I have a direct port and I aint takin it off so no worries there.

We will see what they do, Maybe they do a fast N20 class and I will come.
Maybe they will do a slower one (sounds like they are leaning that way) and I wont come, I wont be mad either way.

You can go up or down which is good thats the kinda guys there looking to set the class up for.
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ATVracr
I have a direct port and I aint takin it off so no worries there.

We will see what they do, Maybe they do a fast N20 class and I will come.
Maybe they will do a slower one (sounds like they are leaning that way) and I wont come, I wont be mad either way.

You can go up or down which is good thats the kinda guys there looking to set the class up for.
You can join my pit crew if its a slow class. Jason will be on bottle valve detail (sorry for the low blow boss)
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 09:34 AM
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Yeah no ****, I need a guy just to open the damn bottle up. Last time I forgot to do that it cost me about 18 grand
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ATVracr
346-365 ....3100lbs.
366-454.....3400lbs.

Thats a Joke..... if anything it AT LEAST needs 3 weight category's, even then it's skewed.

346-370-3100lbs
371-396-3250lbs
397+ 3400lbs

4 might be considered fair

346-370-3000lbs
371-396-3100lbs
397-427-3200lbs
427+ 3300lbs

Add 100Lbs for aftermarket blocks if you for some reason you really want people at 3400 lbs
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 10:43 AM
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Who has a low 10 high 9 second nitrous car that weighs 3,000 with a driver? NOBODY !
So why even have it?

You could have a milion rules if you wanted to but Tech would be a bitch.
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 10:44 AM
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I'd just progress it, add X amount of weight for every CI over 346
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 10:48 AM
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@ 3000 lbs a 346 wouldn't have a hard time getting into the mid 9's I don't think. For a class like we're talking, that may be too los a starting point. You may want a 346 car at 3200, a 402 car at 3450, 427 car at 3500, 454 at 3600.

I don't know the exact # that should be at what weight, but adding x amount for every Ci is probably a good idea.
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 10:52 AM
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I think a 9.7 - 10.0 target would have the best turnout. A class like this needs to catch folks on their way to the mid 9's not on their way to the mid 8's. There are not enough 8 second nitrous LSx's to make a full field.

I've love to see this class mandate a 275-60-15, ET 28x11.5, and no slicks. Making the car work on the tire is what will make this class interesting, not who has xx size pills with a 408ci iron block.

I know weight is one way to go at this, but I'd like to see big cubes run less nitrous, and high strung stock cube guys allowed to run 100hp more of nitrous.

I could see a lot of low 10 second guys stepping up for this class as long as it didn't have big holes in it.

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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 10:53 AM
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If they really want to slow them down put everyone on a 26" slick.

That should ruffle some feathers....
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
I'd just progress it, add X amount of weight for every CI over 346
Like Modified production classes use to be 8lbs/CI regardless, granted these were for NA cars. If you can make weight good for you if not just come in as light as you can.

8x346-2768
8x402-3216
8x427-3416
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 11:07 AM
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Scott if you have a chance I need to touch base with you about something... Call me or I will call u.

Geez... you're such a flirt!
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Juiced
Like Modified production classes use to be 8lbs/CI regardless, granted these were for NA cars. If you can make weight good for you if not just come in as light as you can.

8x346-2768
8x402-3216
8x427-3416
Yeah something like that, but the base weight for a 346 would have to be more like 3000 lbs. So something like an 8.7 multiplier would work.

346x8.7 = 3010.2, call it 3010

402x8.7 = 3497.4, call it 3497

454x8,7 = 3949.8, so call that 3950.

It would stop someone from just building a massive 500 inch motor that with very little nitrous at all be capable of running in the 8's for sure.

The 26 inch tire Wayne, that's intresting. But, you know as well as I do that there's guys running mid to low 5's to the 1/8th on the 26x8.5 tires, so I dunno if that would really be a limiter like you think.
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
The 26 inch tire Wayne, that's intresting. But, you know as well as I do that there's guys running mid to low 5's to the 1/8th on the 26x8.5 tires, so I dunno if that would really be a limiter like you think.

Those are pure purpose built race cars. and they dont weigh 3400lbs.
I want to see you strap them on and get down.
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 11:49 AM
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I think this is being made awfully difficult...

high 9sec nitrous cars already have a place to race...its the index showdown

this should be a complimentary class to the outlaw 315 (err...295 ) DR class where the N20 cars can't keep up with the turbo cars...

slap on 275s and run whatcha brung...as long as its a LSx-based nitrous combo...

as a spectator, I'd rather see all-out nitrous cars instead of watered down combos...the premiere heads up classes should offer at least some excitement
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 11:57 AM
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j/k problem with that is you end up with a 4 car field. There are several low 8 second (possible high 7) nitrous cars around here. If the rules are setup like that, the class will never be filled. I do see where you are coming from in terms of excitement for the class. Right now i think everyone is more concerned with having a full field.


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I think this is being made awfully difficult...

high 9sec nitrous cars already have a place to race...its the index showdown

this should be a complimentary class to the outlaw 315 (err...295 ) DR class where the N20 cars can't keep up with the turbo cars...

slap on 275s and run whatcha brung...as long as its a LSx-based nitrous combo...

as a spectator, I'd rather see all-out nitrous cars instead of watered down combos...the premiere heads up classes should offer at least some excitement
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 12:12 PM
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I'll be there. voted 10-10.99... I just need to get all the safty equipt. in the car. The cage still isn't in.
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 12:20 PM
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problem with trying to make a "regular guy" class is that there are alot of other "regular guys" out there that don't run N20 that'll complain that they don't have a class

i.e. cam only car
h/c cars
small turbo cars
etc...

how many 8.0 Nitrous LSX runs have there been on 275s?

BTW...I see 15 votes for 8.0-8.99




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j/k problem with that is you end up with a 4 car field. There are several low 8 second (possible high 7) nitrous cars around here. If the rules are setup like that, the class will never be filled. I do see where you are coming from in terms of excitement for the class. Right now i think everyone is more concerned with having a full field.
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Fireball
problem with trying to make a "regular guy" class is that there are alot of other "regular guys" out there that don't run N20 that'll complain that they don't have a class

i.e. cam only car
h/c cars
small turbo cars
etc...

how many 8.0 Nitrous LSX runs have there been on 275s?

BTW...I see 15 votes for 8.0-8.99
Id say that vote is a little suspect and i wouldnt rely on it. Its not public so i dont know who voted there. Waynes been 8.9 on a 275 with his old setup, new setup should be WELL below that. RPM just went 8.8x @ 117, who knows what that would have been on a full run. I am sure there are a few others out there. These kind of cars would be guaranteed to win the class and there are only a handful of them.
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ATVracr
Those are pure purpose built race cars. and they dont weigh 3400lbs.
I want to see you strap them on and get down.
They are very much purpose built no argument there.. but there's nothing stopping someone from doing that with lsx power.


I'll go to that tire right after you do LOL. I tried that once when I was running the car n/a, just to see if the car would like a 4.30 gear instead of the 4.10 I was running (shorter tire same effect) Chef had a set of 26x8.5 et drags on his convo pro's, so I figured why not try it one day.

Footbraking the radial was no different then transbraking on that tire.... results were about the same. BUt, I did have to drive the car for 1/2 the run.....

Add the nitrous power to that, no thanks LOL.
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