What size dry jets? getting mixed info
08-11-2010, 12:30 PM
#21
Definitely get a set of injectors, if you're already looking to jet it up you will probably go further then what the stocker's will allow for safely. 42 lb will work good, and support as much power as your stock shortblock will take.
#7 plug for what you're doing as well, that should work out no problem.
#7 plug for what you're doing as well, that should work out no problem.
08-11-2010, 12:49 PM
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ok. ill be looking into a controller if someone chimes in. Im gonna go 10s then. haha just hope for the best. its just a learning motor i guess. got an iron 6.0 waiting in the wings anyway.
08-11-2010, 12:52 PM
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Here's the updated box from what I have... It's VERY simplistic, but it does the job for what I need it for.
http://nitrousoutlet.com/catalog/cat...=26§ion=86
http://nitrousoutlet.com/catalog/cat...=26§ion=86
08-11-2010, 11:35 PM
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I'm not arguing with anyone here but just want to add that I ran TR6s with a 125 dry kit on two different cars through MANY 20 lb bottles and I never had a problem. Those plugs worked just fine for me and everyone else back in the day.
NOT saying that there isn't something better....just saying that they do work.
On 5177 jetting....It was my experience that pilling up past 125 HP did nothing extra. This kit would only flow that no matter what pills you used. Maybe that's not the case today. Just saying, don't be surprised.
Also, be sure to keep that bottle pressure up with a dry kit. I know folks say 850-900 PSI but believe me, 950-1050 works better.
NOT saying that there isn't something better....just saying that they do work.
On 5177 jetting....It was my experience that pilling up past 125 HP did nothing extra. This kit would only flow that no matter what pills you used. Maybe that's not the case today. Just saying, don't be surprised.
Also, be sure to keep that bottle pressure up with a dry kit. I know folks say 850-900 PSI but believe me, 950-1050 works better.
08-12-2010, 09:22 AM
#28
I'm not arguing with anyone here but just want to add that I ran TR6s with a 125 dry kit on two different cars through MANY 20 lb bottles and I never had a problem. Those plugs worked just fine for me and everyone else back in the day.
NOT saying that there isn't something better....just saying that they do work.
On 5177 jetting....It was my experience that pilling up past 125 HP did nothing extra. This kit would only flow that no matter what pills you used. Maybe that's not the case today. Just saying, don't be surprised.
Also, be sure to keep that bottle pressure up with a dry kit. I know folks say 850-900 PSI but believe me, 950-1050 works better.
NOT saying that there isn't something better....just saying that they do work.
On 5177 jetting....It was my experience that pilling up past 125 HP did nothing extra. This kit would only flow that no matter what pills you used. Maybe that's not the case today. Just saying, don't be surprised.
Also, be sure to keep that bottle pressure up with a dry kit. I know folks say 850-900 PSI but believe me, 950-1050 works better.
And back in the day 9.8's was fast.
Projected tip plugs are not nitrous plugs.
950 psi is the best to leave the line at.
If you have been away from this stuff for a while dont come in and give the new guys bad info.
08-13-2010, 04:01 PM
#29
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Bad info? Where. Point it out so I'll be sure not to give it again. Thanks. 
For example....I said TR-6s work for a 125 shot but that I wasn't saying there wasn't something better. Ok, true statement, right?
I said that with a 5177 kit jetting past 125 HP did nothing extra for me but that for all I know it could be different now (the kit could have changed but I doubt it.) Another true statement, no?
And I said (again, talking about a 5177 kit which I have plenty of track tested experience with) that a bottle pressure of 950-1050 works better than 850-900. This is a fact as well. Don't believe me? Buy yourself a 5177 kit and do some track testing.
So...I don't see where anything I said was out of line but I'm always willing to learn from the experts.
Thanks again.
For example....I said TR-6s work for a 125 shot but that I wasn't saying there wasn't something better. Ok, true statement, right?
I said that with a 5177 kit jetting past 125 HP did nothing extra for me but that for all I know it could be different now (the kit could have changed but I doubt it.) Another true statement, no?
And I said (again, talking about a 5177 kit which I have plenty of track tested experience with) that a bottle pressure of 950-1050 works better than 850-900. This is a fact as well. Don't believe me? Buy yourself a 5177 kit and do some track testing.
So...I don't see where anything I said was out of line but I'm always willing to learn from the experts.
Thanks again.
08-13-2010, 04:06 PM
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"And back in the day 9.8's was fast."
Are there tons of LS1s running 9.8s naturally aspirated using a hydraulic street cam, pump gas, LS6 heads and an LS6 intake manifold nowadays? I'm asking seriously, I don't know. Maybe 9.8s are slow now....cool.
Are there tons of LS1s running 9.8s naturally aspirated using a hydraulic street cam, pump gas, LS6 heads and an LS6 intake manifold nowadays? I'm asking seriously, I don't know. Maybe 9.8s are slow now....cool.
08-13-2010, 05:18 PM
#31
That's Wayne's issue there. The whole projected tip plug thing is getting beaten to death. They may work, but why suggest something that isn't optimal when there is ZERO price difference between the right part and the part that may work fine most of the time, but is inherently flawed for the purpose for which it is being used?
08-13-2010, 05:49 PM
#32
From the research I have done the tr6 plug works "ok" for a 100 shot or less... and thats on a stock/ bolt on car that spends more time running na than on the bottle. Other than that listen to what guys are telling you and put a non projected plug in the car.
08-13-2010, 06:20 PM
#34
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Hey guys, I *wasn't* making a recommendation for the TR-6 over another plug. I was just adding to the conversation the fact that they always seemed to work fine for small shots...and they did. But I certainly wasn't saying "Use these plugs for nitrous...they are the best choice." Nope, wasn't saying that at all. I was just adding to the conversation.
So, ya'll try not to take more from my comments than what was actually said. I tell my wife all the time, "If you didn't say it, I didn't hear it. I don't talk between the lines and so I'm not good at reading between the lines!"
And FWIW, I have never known of an engine failure with a small shot of nitrous that I'd blame on TR-6 plugs.
So, ya'll try not to take more from my comments than what was actually said. I tell my wife all the time, "If you didn't say it, I didn't hear it. I don't talk between the lines and so I'm not good at reading between the lines!"
And FWIW, I have never known of an engine failure with a small shot of nitrous that I'd blame on TR-6 plugs.
08-13-2010, 06:41 PM
#35
I understood what you were going at, and just want to clarify the distinction that some seemed to be missing.
Hell, I used projected tip plugs years ago and never had any problems, just wanted to make sure that everyone understood that you were only speaking in terms of past experiences, not attempting to say that the TR6 is the best plug for nitrous.
Happy Spraying!
Hell, I used projected tip plugs years ago and never had any problems, just wanted to make sure that everyone understood that you were only speaking in terms of past experiences, not attempting to say that the TR6 is the best plug for nitrous.
Happy Spraying!
08-13-2010, 07:02 PM
#36
in no way was I implying to risk running tr6's even on a small shot.I was initially posting research from certain companies, then I followed it up by saying "listen to what guys are telling u and get a non projected tip plug".
I will be goin with a non projected plug even tho the manufacturer of the kit I purchased said id be "ok' with tr6's. Hope this clears things up!
I will be goin with a non projected plug even tho the manufacturer of the kit I purchased said id be "ok' with tr6's. Hope this clears things up!
08-13-2010, 11:36 PM
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well i sprayed about 15 passes tonight with the same TR6 plugs and .036 jeting and it ran just fine. Even went 7.55
i think ill just pull the botle off and try to sell this car and get more a more DD style car. Im gonna start over and do a full on nitrous car. but great info guys. ill be goin with a wet kit build next.
i think ill just pull the botle off and try to sell this car and get more a more DD style car. Im gonna start over and do a full on nitrous car. but great info guys. ill be goin with a wet kit build next.
