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Old Sep 10, 2010 | 01:23 PM
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i was wondering what is needed to run a dry 50-75 shot on my car safely? im a newbie to this nitrous stuff, so any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks.
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Old Sep 10, 2010 | 02:04 PM
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i think your gonna need injectors for anything more than a 50 shot. if you dont a 50 might be worth it. if you need injectors you should be looking at 100-125 shot.

get your average dry kit, bottle heater. if your going with a big shot get an interface and spray post MAF
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yea im not trying to get into nothin real serious so like 75 would be max for me, just trying to get some decent power for cheap.
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Old Sep 11, 2010 | 08:18 AM
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if your gonna max your injectors your gonna end up spending money on injectors and a tune so you might as well get your moneys worth and do a 125 shot, thats all im saying. anything less than 100 imo is barely worth it.
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i guess thats true what size injectors would i need for a 125 and what kinda plugs?
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Old Sep 11, 2010 | 10:59 AM
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the stock fuel system will support roughly 450whp. If your mods consist of only boltons your fuel system should be capable of handling up to 125 shot dry. Start with a 75 shot and a colder plug, 50 is not worth messin with imo. Oh and dont forget to pull 3 degrees timing to be safe, you can always add it back if the tuneup looks good...
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Old Sep 11, 2010 | 11:56 AM
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36lb'ers and a good pump... you can do 75-125 all day long properly tuned
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ok so for a 75 dry my stock pump and injectors r ok to use for that but anymore and ill need injectors and a pump? in that correct?
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My expierence logging my 99 (99 and 00 have 26 pound injectors, other year LS1's are 28 pound), my fuel injectors were maxed out over a 75 shot. A 100 shot my AFR was 13.1 and Injector duty cycle was 106 ish. I switched to 42's and was in the 70's for IDC and AFR was low 11's.
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Ok so will a 75 dry shot be fine on a stock fuel system?
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Yes. with 26lb injectors that will probably be the pushing the limit tho... upgrading injectors would be a good idea after that. Scan it and verify... no two cars are exactly the same. You can start with a 50 shot, but I can almost gurantee you that a 75 shot wont hurt a stock car. Just pull the timing and install a colder plug... all should be good!

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Originally Posted by Beer99C5
My expierence logging my 99 (99 and 00 have 26 pound injectors, other year LS1's are 28 pound), my fuel injectors were maxed out over a 75 shot. A 100 shot my AFR was 13.1 and Injector duty cycle was 106 ish. I switched to 42's and was in the 70's for IDC and AFR was low 11's.
Was that cammed or stock internal? A bolton car should not have a problem running a 75 shot on 26lb injectors. Atleast this is what I have seen, correct me if Im wrong!
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Stock

Blackwing CAI, and Borla Catbacks.
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Thanks for the advice
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Old Sep 14, 2010 | 02:31 PM
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Here is the dyno from that w/ AFR Dry shot and a wet plate shot. Same day same car.

Dry Shot injectors 106 % Duty Cycle (so the MAF was getting a good read), Dual nozzle Dry shot estimated @ 75 shot



Wet shot (was shooting for 100 shot but fell a lil short)
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Old Sep 15, 2010 | 11:08 PM
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Sorry for all the questions, but if I get a wet nitrous kit how much timing do I need to take out for a 75 shot and am wondering how I retard the timing without a handheld tuner or window switch? Thanks
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Old Sep 15, 2010 | 11:19 PM
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Usually it works by removing 2 degrees of timing per 50 shot of nitrous. A window switch? Your an a4 aren't you? You can removing timing with a nitrous controller or a tune.
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Old Sep 15, 2010 | 11:21 PM
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Get a wet plate kit. And your 75shot of juice will not last long. You'll be up to 125 before you know it.
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Old Sep 15, 2010 | 11:41 PM
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Yea I plan on 125 shot, and how much is a nitrous controller? Isn't that a window switch?
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Harris speed works and nitrous outlet both have nitrous controllers w/ built in window switches. imo with your small injectors, I would get a wet system from one of these 2 vendors... You can pull fuel off the rail and not mess with changing injectors. Id say if you had 28lb injectors a dry system would work nicely up to 100-125 shot depending, but those 26's don't leave you any room.
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