Adding & Tuning 2nd stage?
Adding & Tuning 2nd stage? Currently i'm running a 150 wet shot through Harris speed works 92mm plate & thinkin of adding another 50 through a nozzle. I'd just go with bigger jets through the plate but according to HSW 150 is the max it will flow.
I've got a bunch of parts left over from previous N20 kits & I've got a complete kit from Nitrous Express but its for a sport bike that has 4 little pirahna wet nozzles it has jets from 16-26 sizes but i'm worried on where to guess for jets for a 8 cyl car.
Any suggestions?
I've got a bunch of parts left over from previous N20 kits & I've got a complete kit from Nitrous Express but its for a sport bike that has 4 little pirahna wet nozzles it has jets from 16-26 sizes but i'm worried on where to guess for jets for a 8 cyl car.
Any suggestions?
According to my jet chart,
HSW says a 50 jet is 0.039
Brand X chart says 50 jet is 0.035
Nitrous Outlet says 50 jet is 0.035
Nitrous Express says 50 jet is 0.035
My calculator says 50 jet is 0.036
HSW says a 50 jet is 0.039
Brand X chart says 50 jet is 0.035
Nitrous Outlet says 50 jet is 0.035
Nitrous Express says 50 jet is 0.035
My calculator says 50 jet is 0.036
Update, i just received an email from HSW with jetting sizes all the way up to 250hp shot..... Thats great and weird at the sametime since my original email last year said 150hp is all the "plate" would flow.
They suggested
175 = 72N/36F jets
200 = 72N/38F jets
250 = 82N/42F jets
Fbodyjunkie brought up a good point, does anyone know how much the NOS brand "super powershot" noids flow? Thats currently what i'm using & they are tiny. I know the original kit they came on 150hp was the max jetting that was supplied.
Heck if this plate will actually flow that much i'll stick with the 1 stage plate. What do you guys think?
They suggested
175 = 72N/36F jets
200 = 72N/38F jets
250 = 82N/42F jets
Fbodyjunkie brought up a good point, does anyone know how much the NOS brand "super powershot" noids flow? Thats currently what i'm using & they are tiny. I know the original kit they came on 150hp was the max jetting that was supplied.
Heck if this plate will actually flow that much i'll stick with the 1 stage plate. What do you guys think?
From YellowBullet:
If the noid has a .073 orifice, that's a 175 hit max.
Ok guys, here is the deal on nitrous solenoids........."powershot" and "super powershot" systems, come with the small, purge sized, .073 orifice solenoid, it is called a "powershot" solenoid and the part number is a 16020. A "cheater" kit, has "cheater" solenoids and this is the large body solenoid, with a .092 orifice and a 16000 part number. The "pro-shot" and "super pro-shot" solenoids, are the same physical size as the "cheater" solenoid, but have larger .116 orifice and have part numbers 16040 (side exit pro-shot, no longer made) and 16045 (side exit super pro-shot). We also have the "pro-race" which is the 16048R, bottom exit, .116 orifice solenoid, which is also the same physical size as "cheater", "pro-shot" and "super pro-shot" solenoids. There is no "big shot" solenoid. That is the name of our larger HP plate kit and it comes with the 16045 "super pro-shot" solenoid.
The "trashcan" solenoid that people refer to, is a huge, .157 orifice solenoid and is not offered in any kit, directly from NOS. It is strictly an upgrade solenoid and is the "super big shot" part number 16010. Myself and others do offer this in some kits, but as stated, NOS does not.
No kit combination, would come from NOS, with a "cheater" plate and a "super pro-shot" solenoid. If that is what some are getting, this is some parts that someone else is pieceing together
Hope that clears up any solenoid confusion
Monte
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The "trashcan" solenoid that people refer to, is a huge, .157 orifice solenoid and is not offered in any kit, directly from NOS. It is strictly an upgrade solenoid and is the "super big shot" part number 16010. Myself and others do offer this in some kits, but as stated, NOS does not.
No kit combination, would come from NOS, with a "cheater" plate and a "super pro-shot" solenoid. If that is what some are getting, this is some parts that someone else is pieceing together
Hope that clears up any solenoid confusion
Monte
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Check with Nitro Dave or Nitrous outlet. Or you can use what you have and add the 2nd stage.
I'm thinking of 2 staging mine, one on at 3k the 2nd on at 3500-4k just to soften the hit a little.
I'm thinking of 2 staging mine, one on at 3k the 2nd on at 3500-4k just to soften the hit a little.
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Verdad Gallardo If that is the orifice size on your noids then they will not make it to a 175hp setting let alone a 200hp setting.
For example my nitrous noid has a .125 orifice! That's HUGE compared to yours!!!
You need to call Nitrous Outlet and order some new solenoids.
That plate should flow 300hp don't you think Dave?
For example my nitrous noid has a .125 orifice! That's HUGE compared to yours!!!
You need to call Nitrous Outlet and order some new solenoids.
That plate should flow 300hp don't you think Dave?
The email from Harris contradicts what they have been telling people. They have stated they make two plates. One will max flow 150hp. It is used in there plate conversion and there small solenoid system.
No matter which of there plates you have, due to there design you will probably have to use a shorter fuel hose than the nitrous hose.
Like stated above the .075 solenoids max flow between 175-200 hp.
Easy way to tell if your plate will flow the hp would be to do a flow consumption test.
Dave
No matter which of there plates you have, due to there design you will probably have to use a shorter fuel hose than the nitrous hose.
Like stated above the .075 solenoids max flow between 175-200 hp.
Easy way to tell if your plate will flow the hp would be to do a flow consumption test.
Dave
As dave said when you get the bigger solenoids, weigh the bottle on a digital scale before your first pass.
Jet the plate for a 200 shot. There is a known pounds per hour for a true 200hp rating. If the bottle after the run doesn't use the known pounds per hour for a true 200hp rating then it's not going to flow more than what they say at 150.
Jet the plate for a 200 shot. There is a known pounds per hour for a true 200hp rating. If the bottle after the run doesn't use the known pounds per hour for a true 200hp rating then it's not going to flow more than what they say at 150.
hmmm interesting,
Yeah Dave i agree, I was looking a bit closer at HSW website, I don't know if the "Sudden Impact" plate is the same as the "Brute Force" plate. Cuz as you stated, SI plate flows 150 & the BF plate flows 200 or so.... they won't return my email about the correct info yet......
Yeah Dave i agree, I was looking a bit closer at HSW website, I don't know if the "Sudden Impact" plate is the same as the "Brute Force" plate. Cuz as you stated, SI plate flows 150 & the BF plate flows 200 or so.... they won't return my email about the correct info yet......
