Black00Z

I am testing my new F1 system, and the only thing I hear clicking is the relay when I press the micro switch. I thought I had everything wired correctly?? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />

I think I read somewhere that the yellow wire from the MSD window switch does NOT go to one side of the solenoids. Maybe that is my problem? If that's true, how should the 'noid grounds and the yellow msd line be wired?

<small>[ March 15, 2003, 01:21 AM: Message edited by: Black00Z ]</small>

slow

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the MSD goes to the ground of the relay, not the selonoids.

if you have a FPSS, thats providing ground you can wire it like this

Relay.....fpss......MSD.

Or if your FPSS is rated for it, and you want to, you can use it to ground the noids themselves. (personal preference)

The selonoid ground goes to ground. Power to the relay.

Ryan
Ryan.

Black00Z

Ryan--Thanks for the response.

I wired the MSD to the relay pin 85, and the solenoids to a chasis ground. Still nothing. <img border="0" alt="[bang head]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_banghead.gif" />

Does the relay itself need to be grounded, or is that provided by the window switch? I do not have a FPSS.

Sorry for the dumb questions. TNT's wiring instructions aren't much help.

<small>[ March 14, 2003, 02:19 PM: Message edited by: Black00Z ]</small>

JNorris

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Check out this drawing. I did not draw it but it is good and correct.

Drawing


John

Black00Z

According to that diagram, I need 2 relays?? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />

Sorry guys, I'm a nitrous newbie. I thought I'd be fine by running the yellow wire from the MSD to pin 85, and grounding the noids to the chasis. Instead, I get nothing. At least before, the relay would click when I depressed the micro switch. <img border="0" alt="[bang head]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_banghead.gif" />

JNorris

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Black00Z,

You can use just one relay if you choose.

What all are you trying to install, FPSS, RPM window switch…

Black00Z

I am wiring a TNT F1 wet kit, a MSD window switch, a NX purge, and a NX bottle heater. I am having problems getting power to the 'noids.

I currently have the noids grounded to the chasis on one side, the other side of the noids going to the 87 pin on the relay, the 30 pin going to the battery, the 86 pin going to the micro switch, and the 85 pin going to the yellow wire on the window switch.

JNorris

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What is the other side of the micro switch hooked to? Should be to 12 volts.
Pin 30 to the battery is ok
Noids to 87 is ok
Is the RPM switch grounded?

In your configuration when the micro switch is pushed (closed) 12v will be supplied to pin 86. At the same time when the RPM switch is activated it will supply a ground to pin 85 causing the coil in the relay to connect pins 30 and 87 and this will apply 12v to the noids.
In order for this to work you must have the RPM switch grounded and the micro switch must apply 12v to pin 86. And the RPM switch pill rpm must also be met.

John

Black00Z

First off, thanks a lot for the help. I really appreciate you walking me through. I obviously don't know what the hell I'm doing... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Embarrassed]" src="gr_emb.gif" />

Second, I have the other side of the micro switch wired to the acc. post on my arming switch. The arming switch is wired to an open slot in my fuse box.

I do have the window switch grounded. If the RPM pill must be met, how can I test my noids with the car off, as the instructions call for? Can I do that by removing the "on" pill?

slow

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you test the system by temporaly grounding the wire where the window switch connects to.

Ryan.

Black00Z

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by slow:
<strong> you test the system by temporaly grounding the wire where the window switch connects to.

Ryan. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">So, to test I need to unhook the window switch from the relay pin 85, and run a wire from pin 85 to a chasis ground?

BTW, you want to trade handles? I think yours fits me better <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

slow

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sure i'll trade.... for a 422 LS6 headed 9.0 compression motor <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

Figure the handle would be a cool license plate when my car gets fast.

The name came from my old car, 1992 pontiac bonneville.... it was SLOW... the new car is FASTer.. but still slow in the scheme of things.

Ryan.

JNorris

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Black00Z:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by slow:
<strong> you test the system by temporaly grounding the wire where the window switch connects to.

Ryan. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">So, to test I need to unhook the window switch from the relay pin 85, and run a wire from pin 85 to a chasis ground?

BTW, you want to trade handles? I think yours fits me better <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Correct!

Black00Z

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by JNorris:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Black00Z:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by slow:
<strong> you test the system by temporaly grounding the wire where the window switch connects to.

Ryan. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">So, to test I need to unhook the window switch from the relay pin 85, and run a wire from pin 85 to a chasis ground?

BTW, you want to trade handles? I think yours fits me better <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Correct! </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">On which part? j/k <img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" />

I tried to test the system before I came into work tonite, and now my battery is dead. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="gr_sad.gif" /> Things just aren't going my way. <img border="0" alt="[bang head]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_banghead.gif" /> I hope to jumpstart my car tomorrow, and check my noids then. Thanks for the help guys. <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />

LASTLS1

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The relay has to be grounded. Follow the diagram in the instructions go wire by wire, it will work. Take your time. Make sure all your connections are GOOD, don't use bud connectors. ALL grounds must be good!!!!!!!!!!!! Good luck.

Black00Z

It's alive!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> I finally have power to the noids. I plan on finishing up tomorrow.

Thanks for all your help, guys. <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />

Black00Z

Everything is wired and ready to go. My only problem is is that I'm leaking like a sieve at the filter and purge. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="gr_sad.gif" />