will race gas kill 02's if just used with the nitrous?
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thinking about tossing some forged parts into the motor and then hiting it with a nice big shot(150+) on top of the blower.
if i build a seperate fuel system for the nitrous and put some great gas in there like some 118octane, leaded, will that kill the o2's?
if i build a seperate fuel system for the nitrous and put some great gas in there like some 118octane, leaded, will that kill the o2's?
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by bigSS:
<strong> Ya, you will need "race" O2s. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">it kills them that fast? just be using it 10sec at a time ocasionaly, or does that not matter.
<strong> Ya, you will need "race" O2s. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">it kills them that fast? just be using it 10sec at a time ocasionaly, or does that not matter.
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these guys arent reading your whole post before replying.
No it will not kill the o2's. I have several customers cars that run dedicated fuel systems with 110-114 octane in a fuel cell. You only spray your car about 5-12 seconds at a time, and its only about 30% of your total fuel going in. Its so little, and so little time that you have about a 1% chance of killing a o2 sensor ever.
No it will not kill the o2's. I have several customers cars that run dedicated fuel systems with 110-114 octane in a fuel cell. You only spray your car about 5-12 seconds at a time, and its only about 30% of your total fuel going in. Its so little, and so little time that you have about a 1% chance of killing a o2 sensor ever.
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i run 104 octane unleaded when on the bottle..
i was told that 110 leaded would be safe for 02's as long as it was very small usage.
12.9@103 in my little V6
i was told that 110 leaded would be safe for 02's as long as it was very small usage.
12.9@103 in my little V6
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LEADED gas will kill your O2s and send the computer into a fit because it cant read the exhaust gasses coming out. You can run like 104 UNLEADED and be safe, but no no to leaded gas <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by C4VetteLS1:
<strong> these guys arent reading your whole post before replying.
No it will not kill the o2's. I have several customers cars that run dedicated fuel systems with 110-114 octane in a fuel cell. You only spray your car about 5-12 seconds at a time, and its only about 30% of your total fuel going in. Its so little, and so little time that you have about a 1% chance of killing a o2 sensor ever. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I would have to agree with this statement. Although I think eventually it will still take a toll on the O2s...I think it would be ok for a while. Running for 10-11 seconds at a time at WOT is nothing like running around town with a full tank of high octane leaded for 250 miles continously.
I would just have a spare set of O2s ready and check for codes from time to time after some heavy running at the track.
<strong> these guys arent reading your whole post before replying.
No it will not kill the o2's. I have several customers cars that run dedicated fuel systems with 110-114 octane in a fuel cell. You only spray your car about 5-12 seconds at a time, and its only about 30% of your total fuel going in. Its so little, and so little time that you have about a 1% chance of killing a o2 sensor ever. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I would have to agree with this statement. Although I think eventually it will still take a toll on the O2s...I think it would be ok for a while. Running for 10-11 seconds at a time at WOT is nothing like running around town with a full tank of high octane leaded for 250 miles continously.
I would just have a spare set of O2s ready and check for codes from time to time after some heavy running at the track.
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Hey Parish, read this:
https://ls1tech.com/ubb/ultimatebb.p...=003679#000000
I explain how to make home-made race gas, high octane, and unleaded.
Also a nice link.
https://ls1tech.com/ubb/ultimatebb.p...=003679#000000
I explain how to make home-made race gas, high octane, and unleaded.
Also a nice link.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Hit Man X:
<strong> Hey Parish, read this:
https://ls1tech.com/ubb/ultimatebb.p...=003679#000000
I explain how to make home-made race gas, high octane, and unleaded.
Also a nice link. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">thanks for the link, i have run at least 50gallons of xylene thru my truck allready and will continue to do that when i push the boost, it works well.
<strong> Hey Parish, read this:
https://ls1tech.com/ubb/ultimatebb.p...=003679#000000
I explain how to make home-made race gas, high octane, and unleaded.
Also a nice link. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">thanks for the link, i have run at least 50gallons of xylene thru my truck allready and will continue to do that when i push the boost, it works well.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by LASTLS1:
<strong> Just as easy to buy unleaded high octane.Why risk it? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">i guess that is another question right there, if i have a seperate fuel system would i be better off with 104octane unleaded or 118octane leaded and risk the 02's?
my eventual goals are a heads and cam 408 at 6psi and a nx kit at as much as a 150shot. i think my current fuel system will feed the 408 at 6psi but not the nx kit. seems like it would be easier to build an auxiliary fuel system just for the nitrous then try and make the existing system feed both. any thoughts on this? i have an inline gs340 with some big injectors, so far it is feeding a 6.0 at 8psi with a 75shot.
<strong> Just as easy to buy unleaded high octane.Why risk it? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">i guess that is another question right there, if i have a seperate fuel system would i be better off with 104octane unleaded or 118octane leaded and risk the 02's?
my eventual goals are a heads and cam 408 at 6psi and a nx kit at as much as a 150shot. i think my current fuel system will feed the 408 at 6psi but not the nx kit. seems like it would be easier to build an auxiliary fuel system just for the nitrous then try and make the existing system feed both. any thoughts on this? i have an inline gs340 with some big injectors, so far it is feeding a 6.0 at 8psi with a 75shot.
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thinking about tossing some forged parts into the motor and then hiting it with a nice big shot(150+) on top of the blower.
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Just because you use race gas, doesn't necessarily mean it's "high octane". For instance, VP Race Fuel makes almost 70 different types of race fuel. Some are high octane, some are not. Some are oxygenated. Some are not. Some are leaded. Some are not. Some are for cars, bikes, boats, planes, dragsters, streetbikes, dirtbikes, 2-strokes, 4-strokes, high compression, lower compression, turbo-charged, aluminum head, NOS, etc. etc.... Stock motor? Highly modified motor? Many different types of "race fuel" for all types of applications.
There are many drivers/riders who can benefit from running VP race fuel. If you want a fuel that is always consistent and always clean and always exact for your application, VP is the way to go.
Or you can just buy pump gas from any old gas station and shoot craps too. Their large fuel tanks often are dirty with a mixture of stale fuel and fresh fuel. Formulations that are so generic that your high performance vehicle is running something that some plain old sedan is also running.
So are the trucks that deliver the fuel. Dirty with old and new fuel mixed in.
So, who knows what's floating around in those tanks. Sea Monsters maybe?
If you want top notch fuel for your top notch car, consider VP fuel. Especially if you are doing any drag racing, autocross, rally, etc. etc.
Dave Harris
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There are many drivers/riders who can benefit from running VP race fuel. If you want a fuel that is always consistent and always clean and always exact for your application, VP is the way to go.
Or you can just buy pump gas from any old gas station and shoot craps too. Their large fuel tanks often are dirty with a mixture of stale fuel and fresh fuel. Formulations that are so generic that your high performance vehicle is running something that some plain old sedan is also running.
So are the trucks that deliver the fuel. Dirty with old and new fuel mixed in.
So, who knows what's floating around in those tanks. Sea Monsters maybe?
If you want top notch fuel for your top notch car, consider VP fuel. Especially if you are doing any drag racing, autocross, rally, etc. etc.
Dave Harris
Atlanta, GA
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Wow what in the world is going on in these post. I see abunch of <><><<><><><> stuff...
Anyways.We run 104 unleaded gas in the tank and 116 leaded in the dedicated on many of our set ups. In alot of cases 93 in the tank and 116 in the dedicated. You do not use enough of fuel with the nitrous to matter.
This is the reason why we sell so many of our dedicated systems.
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Anyways.We run 104 unleaded gas in the tank and 116 leaded in the dedicated on many of our set ups. In alot of cases 93 in the tank and 116 in the dedicated. You do not use enough of fuel with the nitrous to matter.
This is the reason why we sell so many of our dedicated systems.
Dave