TNT F1 kit..
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TNT F1 kit.. i found a TNT WET F1 kit from my buddy he is gonna sell it to me for around 350-400 but im wondering if this kit is going to work on my lt1...it is a 93. He had it on his LS1 i thnk but am not too sure....any thouhgts? i dont want to buy it if it wont work, or if i doesnt work is there any littel mods to do to make it work
The power ring will not work.However you can use the rest of the kit.I would just take the TNT nozzles and put them into your intake elbow.I would order NXs universal solenoid mounts.You will need to call TNT and get the new jetting power.As for any plate behind the throttle body with Nozzle in it I do not suggest.The front runners are to close.
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so would u guys suggest screwing with it and getting it to work and spening 400 cash...no shipping or going dynotune nitrious system for 399 plus shipping?? and no hassle...i mean will it be hard to get it to work...is it even worth it
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Originally Posted by whilte93lt1
i found a TNT WET F1 kit from my buddy he is gonna sell it to me for around 350-400 but im wondering if this kit is going to work on my lt1...it is a 93. He had it on his LS1 i thnk but am not too sure....any thouhgts? i dont want to buy it if it wont work, or if i doesnt work is there any littel mods to do to make it work
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David, as you know I have a limited amount of experience with TNT's systems so I am wondering about the jetting. How are you guys running the same jetting between the LS1 and the LT1 when the two motors operate at fuel pressures that aren't even close to each other?
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Originally Posted by NXJeremy
David, as you know I have a limited amount of experience with TNT's systems so I am wondering about the jetting. How are you guys running the same jetting between the LS1 and the LT1 when the two motors operate at fuel pressures that aren't even close to each other?
To answer your question, we have allways targeted a more safe a/f @ 10.8-11.2 therefore giving a comfort zone, rather than running a motor on the "edge" tune, ie 12.5+.. The tune for the LT1 is set correct, and the LS1 with the same jetting using the higher fuel pressure tilts to the fat side, but is able to use the extra fuel due to eff of the LS1 design.. Thats why our 100hp setting usually makes 200-225rwtq @ 11.0 a/f.. Sure we could knock fuel out of the LS1 jetting to acheive a "edge" tune, but why?? Thanks for pointing that out though, this is why a dyno day will show the true colors of everyones design and educate everyone that is interested.. Thanks David@TNT
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Originally Posted by David@TNT
To answer your question, we have allways targeted a more safe a/f @ 10.8-11.2 therefore giving a comfort zone, rather than running a motor on the "edge" tune, ie 12.5+.. The tune for the LT1 is set correct, and the LS1 with the same jetting using the higher fuel pressure tilts to the fat side, but is able to use the extra fuel due to eff of the LS1 design.. Thats why our 100hp setting usually makes 200-225rwtq @ 11.0 a/f.. Sure we could knock fuel out of the LS1 jetting to acheive a "edge" tune, but why?? Thanks for pointing that out though, this is why a dyno day will show the true colors of everyones design and educate everyone that is interested.. Thanks David@TNT
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Originally Posted by Nitro Dave's Nitrous Outlet
True,It runs it richer.This is where the torque comes from.However the problem with running the car so rich is that during a pass the bottle pressure drops.This will make the system go even richer.Causing it to fall on its face further down the track.We normally take the systems and retune them setting the air fuel for 11.8 to 12.1.This way we do not have to worry about the system going to rich.
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Dave, I was asked a question as to why we have the same jetting, I answer it.. Dont try to lead me in to arguing or bashing on why others do what they do, this is not necessary.. Thanks David@TNT
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Originally Posted by NXJeremy
Thanks for the info David. However torque is simply in the a/f to a certain point, then the car will "fall on it's face" as Dave put it. Anyway, thanks again for answering my question.
No problem, but it makes me curious how we make more power than rated while falling on its face.. Kinda contradicting ya know, anyways I appreciate the concern you seem to have about TNT threads and how we run our product.. Thanks David@TNT
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Originally Posted by David@TNT
No problem, but it makes me curious how we make more power than rated while falling on its face.. Kinda contradicting ya know, anyways I appreciate the concern you seem to have about TNT threads and how we run our product.. Thanks David@TNT
Second, I never said that your tune makes a car fall on it's face. So I would appreciate it if you would drop the attitude at the door and simply share information when asked for it.
I ask questions simply to gain as much knowledge as I can just like any other person in here. Please try to refrain from getting the attitude everytime someone associated with another nitrous company asks you question.
Thank you.
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Im deffintly not trying to argue with you.Just trying to point out that running a system that rich is not that great.
As for your system makeing more HP than advertised thats because of the orphice size of the JET.Im talking about being able to get more performance out of the system by leaning it out some.This torque is great for the first 60 foot but through out a quarter mile pass your bottle pressure drops.If your already at 10.8 air fuel the system will go richer costing your performance on the top end.I feel that by rejetting the system and tunning the system at 11.8-12.1 at 1000-1050 psi gives for better performance all the way down the track.Its not rocket science.Its common knowledge for any system you use.
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Im deffintly not trying to argue with you.Just trying to point out that running a system that rich is not that great.
As for your system makeing more HP than advertised thats because of the orphice size of the JET.Im talking about being able to get more performance out of the system by leaning it out some.This torque is great for the first 60 foot but through out a quarter mile pass your bottle pressure drops.If your already at 10.8 air fuel the system will go richer costing your performance on the top end.I feel that by rejetting the system and tunning the system at 11.8-12.1 at 1000-1050 psi gives for better performance all the way down the track.Its not rocket science.Its common knowledge for any system you use.
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Wow this is funny, im asked a question about why TNT does what it does, I answer.. Now im in some debate.. This thread was not a discussion of a/f or bottle pressure so I will not answer questions that are not customer questions from this point on.. So to answer the customers question that he has about a TNT kit, you can just change to a LT1 plate and you will have excellent results as it has worked for many years with no distribution problems.. Thanks David@TNT
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Originally Posted by David@TNT
Wow this is funny, im asked a question about why TNT does what it does, I answer.. Now im in some debate.. This thread was not a discussion of a/f or bottle pressure so I will not answer questions that are not customer questions from this point on.. So to answer the customers question that he has about a TNT kit, you can just change to a LT1 plate and you will have excellent results as it has worked for many years with no distribution problems.. Thanks David@TNT
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Originally Posted by David@TNT
Wow this is funny, im asked a question about why TNT does what it does, I answer.. Now im in some debate.. This thread was not a discussion of a/f or bottle pressure so I will not answer questions that are not customer questions from this point on.. So to answer the customers question that he has about a TNT kit, you can just change to a LT1 plate and you will have excellent results as it has worked for many years with no distribution problems.. Thanks David@TNT
