nx wet kit selenoids placement...pics possibly?
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nx wet kit selenoids placement...pics possibly?
hey guys i am looking to mount the nitrous selenoids for my nitrous kit, and i have the places in mind and they are mounted there and i am pretty happy, however before i finalize anything i would like to see some other pics of what other people have.
FWIW i already searched my *** of on here(i am pretty good with the search function) and i was unable to get anything of value.
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FWIW i already searched my *** of on here(i am pretty good with the search function) and i was unable to get anything of value.
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Louie
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I am also trying to decide where to mount them. I plan to use the passenger cyl. head. NX says not to mount to the head due to the heat. I tried using nylon spacers between the head & a piece of aluminum, but it does not help. The heat travels up the bolt to the aluminum. It takes longer to get hot but it still gets as hot as the head.
Tomorrow I will try to find something I have seen before. It is designed for vibration but I think it will work as an insulator. It is a round piece of rubber like a small hockey puck and it has a threaded stud sticking out each end. So there is no metal to metal contact.
I plan to bolt a piece of aluminum to the head then use the insulators to mount another piece of aluminum to mount the solenoids on.
Airwolf: Is the bracket mounted to the head & if so doesen't it get pretty hot?
Tomorrow I will try to find something I have seen before. It is designed for vibration but I think it will work as an insulator. It is a round piece of rubber like a small hockey puck and it has a threaded stud sticking out each end. So there is no metal to metal contact.
I plan to bolt a piece of aluminum to the head then use the insulators to mount another piece of aluminum to mount the solenoids on.
Airwolf: Is the bracket mounted to the head & if so doesen't it get pretty hot?
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right now i have all the noids mounted on the drivers side. i think it looks pretty good. but i dunno. i will try tog et some pics of it so other can see too.
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here is a pic how i got mine mounted. its all messy but i have since cleaned up all the wireing and made every thing nice and neat. i did this frist in pic to make sure everything was working right. and it was my frist install.
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Originally Posted by terry s
I am also trying to decide where to mount them. I plan to use the passenger cyl. head. NX says not to mount to the head due to the heat. I tried using nylon spacers between the head & a piece of aluminum, but it does not help. The heat travels up the bolt to the aluminum. It takes longer to get hot but it still gets as hot as the head.
Tomorrow I will try to find something I have seen before. It is designed for vibration but I think it will work as an insulator. It is a round piece of rubber like a small hockey puck and it has a threaded stud sticking out each end. So there is no metal to metal contact.
I plan to bolt a piece of aluminum to the head then use the insulators to mount another piece of aluminum to mount the solenoids on.
Airwolf: Is the bracket mounted to the head & if so doesen't it get pretty hot?
Tomorrow I will try to find something I have seen before. It is designed for vibration but I think it will work as an insulator. It is a round piece of rubber like a small hockey puck and it has a threaded stud sticking out each end. So there is no metal to metal contact.
I plan to bolt a piece of aluminum to the head then use the insulators to mount another piece of aluminum to mount the solenoids on.
Airwolf: Is the bracket mounted to the head & if so doesen't it get pretty hot?
Lou has been using this setup for over 2 years and he does double the track time I do, easy. No trouble (yet)! This was a custom bracket that is easy to duplicate by a good machine shop. Lou did a template of the bolt holes and a general idea of the solenoid placement on a piece of cardboard and my shop fab'd it. Since doing it, I have seen a few really custom ones in the shape of flames, so someone out there may be selling them. I would run some searchs on it, but have no clue what someone may call it.
Good luck in what ever way you chose...
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Originally Posted by Airwolf
Just run your car for a while and everything under the hood gets hot. At least mine does!
Lou has been using this setup for over 2 years and he does double the track time I do, easy. No trouble (yet)! This was a custom bracket that is easy to duplicate by a good machine shop. Lou did a template of the bolt holes and a general idea of the solenoid placement on a piece of cardboard and my shop fab'd it. Since doing it, I have seen a few really custom ones in the shape of flames, so someone out there may be selling them. I would run some searchs on it, but have no clue what someone may call it.
Good luck in what ever way you chose...
Lou has been using this setup for over 2 years and he does double the track time I do, easy. No trouble (yet)! This was a custom bracket that is easy to duplicate by a good machine shop. Lou did a template of the bolt holes and a general idea of the solenoid placement on a piece of cardboard and my shop fab'd it. Since doing it, I have seen a few really custom ones in the shape of flames, so someone out there may be selling them. I would run some searchs on it, but have no clue what someone may call it.
Good luck in what ever way you chose...
If NX says not to mount to the engine I expect they have a good reason.
I did find silicone insulators today that will take up to 300 degrees (regular rubber ones are only rated to 150-160 degrees befor they start to melt). I ordered a couple to give them a try.
Nice job on the bracket.
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Originally Posted by Airwolf
Terry.
Keep me informed on the insulators. I will let "02 Pewter LS1" know about these incase he has a problem down the line.
Thanks!
Keep me informed on the insulators. I will let "02 Pewter LS1" know about these incase he has a problem down the line.
Thanks!
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No offense to everyone else's setups, but I never liked how the solenoids were just chilling on/around the engine. It just seemed like there was too much heat and moving parts in that general direction, so here's what I did...
I made this cute little bracket... I needed a 3 foot line for the fuel feed. The 18 in. line from NX was too short, but the 2 foot 3AN lines for solenoid-to-nozzle lines are long enough. I do have a purge which sits comfortably on top of the nitrous 'noid. I hadn't bought it at the time when these pics were taken (Dec '04 / Jan '05).
I made this cute little bracket... I needed a 3 foot line for the fuel feed. The 18 in. line from NX was too short, but the 2 foot 3AN lines for solenoid-to-nozzle lines are long enough. I do have a purge which sits comfortably on top of the nitrous 'noid. I hadn't bought it at the time when these pics were taken (Dec '04 / Jan '05).
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Originally Posted by terry s
I am also trying to decide where to mount them. I plan to use the passenger cyl. head. NX says not to mount to the head due to the heat. I tried using nylon spacers between the head & a piece of aluminum, but it does not help. The heat travels up the bolt to the aluminum. It takes longer to get hot but it still gets as hot as the head.
Tomorrow I will try to find something I have seen before. It is designed for vibration but I think it will work as an insulator. It is a round piece of rubber like a small hockey puck and it has a threaded stud sticking out each end. So there is no metal to metal contact.
I plan to bolt a piece of aluminum to the head then use the insulators to mount another piece of aluminum to mount the solenoids on.
Airwolf: Is the bracket mounted to the head & if so doesen't it get pretty hot?
Tomorrow I will try to find something I have seen before. It is designed for vibration but I think it will work as an insulator. It is a round piece of rubber like a small hockey puck and it has a threaded stud sticking out each end. So there is no metal to metal contact.
I plan to bolt a piece of aluminum to the head then use the insulators to mount another piece of aluminum to mount the solenoids on.
Airwolf: Is the bracket mounted to the head & if so doesen't it get pretty hot?
Robert
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Originally Posted by terry s
They look a little hard to access but keeping them away from the heat can't be bad.
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Originally Posted by Robert56
I have run a couple set-ups on a couple cars on the heads and no problem with the heat (secret is to spray as often as possible). I like your rubber isolater trick though. wish I would have thought of it. Doing it this way can only help with the heat issue. Can you post a link to where you got em, as I wants some. thanks
Robert
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I found them at McMASTER-CARR.com search for isolator and go to page 1219. They have no minimum order and said there is no re-stocking on returns.
Note the silicone ones are about $5.00 and rubber ones are about 1/2 price but rubber is only rated to 150 or 160 degrees where silicone is -80 to 300 degrees. I ordered # 4403K27. They come in different hardness (durometer) I got the softer 30A thinking it might be less dense material and a little bit better insulator.
I hope to have mine this week and will do a test to see if they help if you want to wait I can let you know how they do.
Terry
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Originally Posted by Somebody09
No offense to everyone else's setups, but I never liked how the solenoids were just chilling on/around the engine. It just seemed like there was too much heat and moving parts in that general direction, so here's what I did...
I made this cute little bracket... I needed a 3 foot line for the fuel feed. The 18 in. line from NX was too short, but the 2 foot 3AN lines for solenoid-to-nozzle lines are long enough. I do have a purge which sits comfortably on top of the nitrous 'noid. I hadn't bought it at the time when these pics were taken (Dec '04 / Jan '05).
I made this cute little bracket... I needed a 3 foot line for the fuel feed. The 18 in. line from NX was too short, but the 2 foot 3AN lines for solenoid-to-nozzle lines are long enough. I do have a purge which sits comfortably on top of the nitrous 'noid. I hadn't bought it at the time when these pics were taken (Dec '04 / Jan '05).
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Originally Posted by terry s
Robert:
I found them at McMASTER-CARR.com search for isolator and go to page 1219. They have no minimum order and said there is no re-stocking on returns.
Note the silicone ones are about $5.00 and rubber ones are about 1/2 price but rubber is only rated to 150 or 160 degrees where silicone is -80 to 300 degrees. I ordered # 4403K27. They come in different hardness (durometer) I got the softer 30A thinking it might be less dense material and a little bit better insulator.
I hope to have mine this week and will do a test to see if they help if you want to wait I can let you know how they do.
Terry
I found them at McMASTER-CARR.com search for isolator and go to page 1219. They have no minimum order and said there is no re-stocking on returns.
Note the silicone ones are about $5.00 and rubber ones are about 1/2 price but rubber is only rated to 150 or 160 degrees where silicone is -80 to 300 degrees. I ordered # 4403K27. They come in different hardness (durometer) I got the softer 30A thinking it might be less dense material and a little bit better insulator.
I hope to have mine this week and will do a test to see if they help if you want to wait I can let you know how they do.
Terry
Robert
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Originally Posted by Robert56
Oh yea, I happen to have a McMaster Carr catalog at work. We also use these type mounts, but I didn't know about the higher temp ones. To use them vertically a higher durometer is good, as I have used some this way and they droop if too soft. Thanks for the heads up.
Robert
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The insulator's showed up today. I only ordered them yesterday morning. They are a little soft but with 2 of them and as light as the noids are I think they will be fine. I will get one mounted tomorrow as a test and see how it insulates and if it gets softer when it gets hot.
More to come.
More to come.